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THE FIFTH ELEMENT

The Fellowship Of The Reel reviews THE FIFTH ELEMENT

Part One of a four episode Yippy Kai Yay tribute to the great Mr. Bruce Willis. Join us as we celebrate four of Bruce's films and try and say thank you for years of great movies.

Our thoughts and prayers go out to Mr. Willis and his entire family.

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Snyder's Genres:

MONSTER IN THE HOUSE - MONSTER, HOUSES, SIN

GOLDEN FLEECE - ROAD, TEAM, PRIZE

OUT OF THE BOTTLE - A WISH, A SPELL, A LESSON

DUDE WITH A PROBLEM - AN INNOCENT HERO, A SUDDEN EVENT, A TEST OF SURVIVAL

RITE OF PASSAGE - A LIFE PROBLEM, THE WRONG WAY TO FIX IT, THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM

BUDDY LOVE - AN INCOMPLETE HERO, A COUNTERPART NEEDED TO MAKE THEIR LIFE WHOLE, A COMPLICATION THAT IS KEEPING THEM APART EVEN THOUGH THAT FORCE IS BINDING THEM TOGETHER

WHYDUNNIT? - A DETECTIVE, A SECRET, A DARK TURN

FOOL TRIUMPHANT - A FOOL, AN ESTABLISHMENT, A TRANSMUTATION

INSTITUTIONALIZED - A GROUP, A CHOICE, A SACRIFICE (JOIN, BURN IT DOWN, COMMIT SUICIDE)

SUPERHERO - A POWER, A NEMESIS, A CURSE

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The Snyder Beats:

OPENING IMAGE

THEME STATED

SETUP

CATALYST

DEBATE

BREAK INTO TWO

B STORY

FUN AND GAMES

MIDPOINT (FALSE VICTORY OR DEFEAT BUT OPPOSITE OF THE ALL IS LOST)

BAD GUYS CLOSE IN

ALL IS LOST (OPPOSITE OF THE MIDPOINT, FALSE VICTORY OR DEFEAT)

DARK NIGHT OF THE SOUL

BREAK INTO THREE

gathering the team

executing the plan

high tower surprise

dig deep down

execution of the new plan

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The Fifth Element Transcript

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[00:00:03] Phil: Studying a movie in the mechanical level, I think can, can really bring some revelation.

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[00:00:14] James: on paper, this should work, this should work. I just don't like it.

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[00:00:22] Phil: way over budget, start cutting scenes.

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[00:00:28] Sherry: that

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[00:00:30] Sherry: Shit. I, I wish

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[00:00:34] Sherry: movie's trash

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[00:00:51] Phil: Bruce Willis, uh, in light of his recent diagnosis and, uh. All the great entertainment he's brought us over the years. We wanted to do something to sort of [00:01:00] give tribute to him. And so the first four movies that we're gonna review are are gonna be Bruce Willis movies. And this time we are looking at the fifth element.

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[00:01:11] Chris: All right. This movie was, uh, made in, uh, 1997. It actually came out, uh, to the month, 25 years ago. Um, I wish I could take credit for that. It was, uh, it was 100% [00:01:20] happy accident. Um,

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[00:01:23] Chris: Is it? 25th? 25th, yeah. 25th, yeah. To the month, which I think was interesting.

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[00:01:43] Chris: Lee Lou needs to combine the other four to keep approaching great evil from destroying the world together with Father [00:01:50] Cornelius, played by Ian Holm and Zany broadcaster Ruby Rodd, played by Chris Tucker Dallas Must Race Against Time, and the Wicked industrialist org played by Gary Oman to save [00:02:00] humanity.

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[00:02:01] Phil: I, I, uh, the one I found was like a sentence. Much better. Well, no, no, yours is better. I don't know who writes these things in the colorful,

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[00:02:13] Phil: ass off. Go ahead. It says, uh, in the colorful future, a cab driver unwittingly becomes the central figure in the search for a [00:02:20] legendary cosmic weapon to keep evil and Mr.

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[00:02:25] Chris: TV guide you had laying around.

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[00:02:28] James: the, that's the synopsis [00:02:30] there on IMDB. Yeah.

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[00:02:36] Chris: fifth element, right?

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[00:02:38] Phil: Yeah, well, I mean, it it like, [00:02:40] some of these things are. Uh, did you mention the budget or

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[00:02:54] Chris: Right. Um, movies a hundred comes in in 126 minutes, and so yeah, 90 million. Um, [00:03:00] it opened to 17 million for opening weekend and then ended up making like, uh, 263 million. Yeah, that's right. By the end. So definitely, I guess a big hit in making its money back. Um, despite, I guess, uh, kind of [00:03:10] mixed reviews, I think it still has mixed reviews from what I was, uh, well reading.

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[00:03:17] Phil: Well, like on Rotten Tomatoes, [00:03:20] both critics and the fans like it, like it, like it's 70% tomato and 86% on the fans. So fans liked it more than critics. Critics. Yeah. Uh, but I think [00:03:30] this movie's probably developed a bit of a cult following too, like

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[00:03:37] James: Wow. I remember seeing it in the theater [00:03:40] opening weekend. I knew nothing about the movie. Same. My brother, uh, he graduated that year. My brother off of school took me, his little brother, and [00:03:50] he used to do that. Just come on, you're I'm babysitting.

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[00:04:04] Sherry: Okay. Well, I've been trying to avoid watching it all these years.

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[00:04:15] James: Yeah. It was Luke Besant's baby. It was, uh, written directed by him. [00:04:20] Uh, yeah. He basically told the producers as they gave him money for the project, leave me alone.

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[00:04:34] Phil: Professional. Yeah,

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[00:04:42] Chris: And he's, he's the director. He also, he did have a co-writer. I guess I just wanted to mention, um, Robert Mark, uh, Cayman, um, was his co-writer on this. [00:04:50] That guy, that guy's got some chops too. He wrote Taps, he wrote the Oh yeah, he wrote The

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[00:04:55] Chris: The Karate Kid.

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[00:05:04] Sherry: I put that on there 'cause I like that movie, but it's cheesy. And then with

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[00:05:10] Chris: Dang, dang. Oh golly. And then

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[00:05:16] Chris: movies as well. Um, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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[00:05:23] Chris: Oh, and Kiss

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[00:05:24] Chris: the Dragon

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[00:05:28] Phil: it looks like.

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[00:05:32] James: uh, academy Award-winning movie Under Siege. Oh, yeah, yeah. Best,

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[00:05:44] Chris: But it's, it's good. I like it. No, no. Okay. I, I haven't seen in a long time, but I remember enjoying it and yeah, I mean, it's definitely diehard on a boat, but just like [00:05:50] speed's diehard on a bus, but speed's also a very good movie, in my opinion.

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[00:06:01] James: And Academy Award-winning, like I said,

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[00:06:05] James: it win? Yeah. Best

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[00:06:07] Chris: Best acting from Segal for sure. Best editing. Best [00:06:10] Tommy Lee Jones and Gary Bus in that. They're the, they're a lot of fun, you

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[00:06:22] Chris: do that part of the homework.

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[00:06:23] Phil: oh, okay. I have dude with a problem. Yeah, it's probably, I was gonna say dude with the problem, I thought, thought this was almost a no-brainer as a Yeah,

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[00:06:33] Phil: innocent, a sudden event had a life and death struggle.

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[00:06:39] Phil: into his lap down [00:06:40] in his luck. A sudden event, literally dropping through the roof of his cab. Yeah. And life and death. Thought you can't ask for more than that

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[00:06:50] Chris: Uh, Beson started writing this when he was 16. Really? Yeah. Like coming up with a story and then he was 38 when it came out in the cinemas. Um, so something, you know, he stuck with him for a while. Right. And he kept messing

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[00:07:04] James: Really? But it was gonna be a trilogy series. I

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[00:07:09] Sherry: page script [00:07:10] at one point. That explains that

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[00:07:19] Phil: Uh, I [00:07:20] could,

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[00:07:22] Chris: A trilogy, um, as far as the, the scope of the world Now,

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[00:07:31] Chris: enough I think for anything else. Yeah. So, uh, Beston approached, uh, Bruce Willis and Mel Gibson initially for the lead really.

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[00:07:54] Chris: So he was worried about it being a risky project. And then Besson was worried about what Bruce Ulu was, would cost. [00:08:00] So he, he made the decision to go with a less expensive actor. Yeah. And I guess he was like having some sort of meeting and then somebody got Bruce on the phone and looked, Beson was like, Hey man, I just wanna say hi.

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[00:08:22] Chris: Yeah. To do it.

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[00:08:38] Phil: Well, Jackal came out the [00:08:40] same year. Interesting. That fifth element was, and I, I don't know this, but I'm wondering if he wasn't . Either starting production on the jackal or certainly he couldn't have been filming at [00:08:50] the same time. But his hair is exactly the same color in, in this movie as it is in the character he plays in the jackal.

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[00:09:00] Chris: not. So it's, um, and it's one part of the research I meant to look

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[00:09:08] Chris: looks like that at certain times in his life. [00:09:10] Oh yeah. So it's almost like he modeled the character after himself.

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[00:09:16] Sherry: has dyed blonde just like that as well. And he's not, so I feel like it's [00:09:20]

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[00:09:29] Chris: Yeah. Uh, [00:09:30] or his male characters too. I know some sort of aesthetic thing that the directors like to do. So I feel like it was a, uh, something that, that, uh, SSON did. But, uh,

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[00:09:42] Phil: yeah. Also,

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[00:09:44] Chris: I mean, how many movies does bristles have? Blonde hair and not like these two maybe, you know? Right. Like, not a lot. [00:09:50] Prince was originally cast as Ruby Rudd, which I think would've worked and would've been really interesting. . Um, yeah,

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[00:10:02] Phil: I mean No, I agree. I just said

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[00:10:10] James: Ru Ruby Rudd is a point of contention for a lot of people. I've read some people absolutely hate that character.

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[00:10:28] Phil: you know? No, I, I, [00:10:30] than I dug in this time. I mean,

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[00:10:36] Sherry: Uh, that's just me though, having to understand what he's saying half the time. Yes, [00:10:40] yes.

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[00:10:48] Sherry: Yeah. But I liked, [00:10:50] I mean, I liked him. Yeah.

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[00:10:54] Chris: Like his, his whole thing about us, everything's gonna be green, right? And so he gives his whole speech to Als about, you know, [00:11:00] you had no pop, no fire, you gotta have be green, grabs him and slams him up against the wall and says, look, tomorrow, all this stuff green, super green. Yeah. It's good stuff. Yeah.

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[00:11:12] James: Yeah. It's very good. Uh, to kind of point out a thing, I don't know if you're going back to it, but Chris Tucker. Chris Tucker, is that who it was? Yeah. Chris. [00:11:20] It is Chris Tucker, right? Yeah. Ruby Red, Chris Tucker. And the guy that plays the president, Tom Lister, uh, tiny Zeus Lister. Yeah. Tiny. Uh, they were, uh, they were in Friday together and, uh, Brian [00:11:30] James, who plays, uh, the Colonel something general Colonel was, and, uh, Bruce Willis were in a movie together back in the eighties, I believe [00:11:40] it was, uh,

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[00:11:52] Phil: that's true. Yeah.

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[00:11:56] Phil: watching

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[00:11:57] James: That's what I was thinking. Bruce Willis and, uh, [00:12:00] Brian, Brian James were in striking distance. Distance, yeah.

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[00:12:15] Phil: You know? Uh, I can't remember who all was there, but, uh, [00:12:20] but yeah, there's only like one scene where all the principles are together in one Yeah. One scene or whatever.

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[00:12:35] James: They were in a movie together, but no scenes. That's, yeah. Right, right. That's unheard of a lot of times. . [00:12:40]

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[00:12:45] Chris: beone hired this comic book artist named,

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[00:12:50] Chris: he was hired for

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[00:12:56] Sherry: Yeah. Um, so he brought this guy on to help him, you know, Hey man, I really like your [00:13:00] style. And then that guy ended up suing Basan later on for plagiarism. Yeah. Now he didn't win, but I just thought that was interesting. So you're gonna work on a project

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[00:13:07] Sherry: Hey, you stole my stuff.

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[00:13:12] James: Like, just like if this podcast takes off and you know, hits a billion views, we're probably gonna all want to cut to that, right? [00:13:20] No, yeah. . Yeah. That's a good problem to have. . Sure.

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[00:13:28] Phil: It starts off with this, with [00:13:30] this prologue. How did y'all feel about the prologue?

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[00:13:44] Chris: Yeah. Just, I dunno, a couple of notes I had. So the professor's studying the hieroglyphs, right? [00:13:50] Yeah. And kind of explaining the, the story and the ment and kinda what's going on. And then Luke Perry, I guess is his assistant and he's . So this poor kid is holding up this, uh, the Aziz [00:14:00] Aziz slight, right. And like Luke Perry, part of his job is to count how many times is he?

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[00:14:06] Sherry: times he has to yell at Aze for light? So like when they get

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[00:14:18] Chris: Yeah. Like just slam

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[00:14:20] Chris: bad for this kid. But that's

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[00:14:43] Phil: That's one of the Oh, nice. Yeah. So the fact track, a lot of, you know, stuff like that, but choices are made that, [00:14:50] you know, scenic, you know, uh, that, that you'll never know about. Yeah. Um, on screen or whatever. I just thought, you know, they're doing stuff that you'll never know about. But yeah. I thought that was interesting that the more [00:15:00] spikes the man DeShaw ones have, the higher rank.

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[00:15:10] James: out the entire story of four stones, fifth element,

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[00:15:15] Chris: know what's coming Yeah. Outta the four stones and, and Yeah. Had the fifth element.

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[00:15:23] Sherry: line is kind of hard to understand. So I was gonna ask you, you watched it with, with subtitles to see if I got the line right. The, at one point the [00:15:30] professor guy,

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[00:15:35] Sherry: honestly care not, is that what he says?

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[00:15:47] Sherry: that's his line, I care.

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[00:15:52] Chris: head. I didn't, I didn't go back

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[00:15:54] James: But yeah, that would make sense of what that would be saying. Yeah. Because yeah, that is the big surprise that it's [00:16:00] Mila Jovovich is a woman. Yeah. And

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[00:16:03] Sherry: The perfect is not her man. It's a woman. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, she, she's Awo. I

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[00:16:07] Phil: Yeah. I like that. Yeah. They really do make 'em perfect, [00:16:10] you know, she's right. Changing her clothes or whatever.

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[00:16:18] Chris: The stones are not safe on earth [00:16:20] to move, stick the stones. That's check the gentleman say, we'll return in three, 300 years when evil comes. Right. The one

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[00:16:32] Phil: 1914. 14.

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[00:16:35] James: Yeah. So war is coming. I I never caught that. I I was still in this. Oh, [00:16:40] it's a space drama. There's a space war coming. Oh, I didn't catch it

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[00:16:46] James: yeah. Did I They meant World.

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[00:16:54] Phil: Rommel and all. I catch that. Yep. No, I was, I still, I Until he said it, just then I, yeah, exactly.

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[00:17:03] James: Yeah. So war is coming. Chuan need to take it off of Earth so nobody gets ahold of it. They'll be back in 300 years when. [00:17:10] The 5,000 year old evil comes back. Comes back. Yeah. But it doesn't explain in the, the thing. I would like to see what happened 5,000 years ago. Yeah. Like, what was that war like? [00:17:20] Was it similar?

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[00:17:21] Chris: Yeah. Did they Yeah. They always, they always defeated it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't

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[00:17:25] James: Yeah. Maybe, you know, in 5,000 years this one anomaly [00:17:30] happens, it's only ever gonna happen once. Is is that what they were meaning? Yeah. I

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[00:17:41] Phil: Right, right. 300 years later or whatever. Which,

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[00:17:49] James: [00:17:50] we can get into that a little bit later about how Luke Basson illustrates that with, you have 10 seconds. Yep.

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[00:17:59] Phil: [00:18:00] it was the setup, opening image, whatever. Uh, obviously we're setting up Bruce Willis as a down and outer. It starts off, you know, them try the, the government trying to destroy the Yeah. [00:18:10] The thing and only making it stronger and nobody wanting to pay attention to the priest.

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[00:18:18] Chris: Yeah, no. Right. And he has a line about, [00:18:20] uh, violence begets violence. And then, I mean,

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[00:18:26] Chris: it just gets bigger

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[00:18:32] James: Yeah. Pyramid

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[00:18:39] James: standing in front of the president [00:18:40] going, Hey, this big thing that just appeared outta nowhere is pure evil. It's,

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[00:18:46] Sherry: we don't have time for that.

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[00:18:52] Chris: Which I feel like there's a lot of, and we can into this a little bit later, but

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[00:18:56] Chris: trying to solve problems with violence. Like it's almost like an anti violent [00:19:00] film, right? I mean,

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[00:19:01] Phil: So well, uh, yeah. 'cause the .

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[00:19:06] Chris: saying almost. Yeah, no,

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[00:19:16] Phil: Throughout the movie. I didn't pick this up immediately till the second time I saw it, but she's [00:19:20] going through human history, I guess alphabetically. Yeah. And she, uh, she's at the vs at one point. Yeah. A lot of good words in V. Yeah. Right. Uh, and then she gets [00:19:30] the w and, and I thought the scene worked like she was crying when she learned about war.

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[00:19:40] James: now thought of this. That's very age Voltron Avengers, downloading the internet, getting to war and being like, oh, we can't, we can't trust them. That's true.[00:19:50]

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[00:19:51] Phil: away then. Right, right, right. Well, that's our whole argument, you know, at the end. And, and, uh, something I thought they, you know, I thought, I thought it was. Set up Well, [00:20:00] because in the beginning, no, Bruce is, uh, uh, Dallas, cor Corbin Dallas is, uh, you know, down and out.

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[00:20:12] Chris: Yeah. I have the line I've wrote down. He says, uh, '

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[00:20:16] Chris: whatever he says, finger says, yeah. His, his cabby.

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[00:20:29] Phil: [00:20:30] angel. Yep.

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[00:20:55] Phil: I can't remember. Brian. Brian Fella. Yeah. He

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[00:21:02] Phil: Yeah. Right, right. So he, I thought I, I liked General Monroe, I liked his interactions, whatever, especially. Yeah, that was good. Yes. Um, I thought that was really good. [00:21:10] And, and they, you know, they fixed the contest. It could be important and they, they, you know, but I thought all those were very.

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[00:21:17] Chris: We'd love to help. Major, but where can we go? Yeah. [00:21:20]

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[00:21:32] Chris: knows it's a Multipass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, but you have on the, even the Back to the violence thing.

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[00:21:56] Sherry: living a life that's not violent, right?

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[00:21:59] Chris: [00:22:00] you know, this dude can take care of himself. They show with the mugging, right? I mean, oh, that for a while. It takes the, you know, easily disarms the guy and Well, the, clearly that's happened a lot, I feel like. 'cause he's got a whole

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[00:22:14] Phil: I, I, I remember loving that and I watched it. I was like, I love [00:22:20] that guy. nice hat, right? Nice hat. Yeah. You can almost, it almost looks like Bruce will is about to lose it. Yeah. Nice,

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[00:22:28] Phil: nice hat. Right. [00:22:30] I love that whole exchange, man. Um, and then later

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[00:22:35] Chris: When Lilu, uh, he's trying to let Lilu Liu in and then, uh, major,

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[00:22:42] Chris: She, she knows it, you know, military ruined my last marriage. Whatever. She can't see you guys. So I just, I wonder

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[00:22:48] Sherry: Like, why did he leave? Like, you [00:22:50] know, did, uh, military quote violence ruin

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[00:22:53] Phil: know? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't know because I, I, I guess I, I guess I didn't pick up on the fact that he was married. [00:23:00] I missed, I missed that. I guess he was divorced. Uh,

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[00:23:04] Phil: That was the last two messages. Yeah. Now I remember. Yes. Yeah, because he, that's, yeah. Which, that doesn't

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[00:23:11] Phil: yeah, yeah. Right. Wow. I had to write down the names of the alien. So the, yeah, so the, they're trying to kill the, the, the bad guy. The Mangalore show up, but then the, oh, I'm sorry.

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[00:23:40] Phil: Yep. Mm-Hmm. and made her memorize it. . Yeah. The,

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[00:23:54] Chris: Yeah. Like, it's like it's a rolling language. Yeah. What's your name? Da.

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[00:24:01] Chris: Short. You know? That's good. No, they're in exchange. Just good. I really like Bruce Willis on this movie.

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[00:24:05] Phil: No, I, uh, absolutely every exchange, this, this, this [00:24:10] is, the writing is good and the hands of the director are competent.

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[00:24:17] Chris: it can be even when he, when he first meets her, [00:24:20] like you, I feel like you almost fall in love with her when as Corbin does. Yes. You know, just like, even when, you know, she's crashes into the back and he's like, I need survivors back there. And he's looking back there and then she rattles off all this, you know, this alien language and all you, [00:24:30] oh, boom.

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[00:24:33] Phil: good. No, it was all very endearing and, and clever and. , uh,

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[00:24:40] Phil: Yeah. We learn of Zorn here. Zor, rg, I wrote Zorn down half the time. I did Zor Zor, like Toy Story two that he is, uh, behind this and actually is [00:24:50] working for, they call him Mr.

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[00:24:59] James: He's the, [00:25:00] the planet is the incarnate of Mr. Shadow. Okay.

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[00:25:16] Phil: It's good. It's a good catalyst.

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[00:25:23] Sherry: least 50. Yeah. You're a bad player.

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[00:25:32] James: In six months. In six months, .

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[00:25:42] Sherry: That's true. My goodness. How do you even get around him? Those, yeah. No, I wouldn't

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[00:25:50] Chris: I don't know what the rules are,

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[00:26:10] Phil: Definitely emotional heart being pull. Like this is somebody, it felt like almost like a child, you know?

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[00:26:34] Chris: Like that's his break

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[00:26:39] Chris: so they're [00:26:40] very similar beats, um, which is fine, but just, yeah, just thought they were, and, and I like it. I mean the performances and both of 'em are fine and just, they are very similar beats to me.

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[00:26:47] Phil: I, I think, I seem to remember Natalie [00:26:50] Portman at that point, like knocking and like standing there hoping to God. 'cause she's gotta convince the bad guys that that's, that's really . . So she d where she really lives there. Yeah. I [00:27:00] don't think she asked for help. I think she's stand there waiting,

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[00:27:05] James: because they're, they're demolishing the, the apartment at that time, her apartment.

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[00:27:12] Chris: said, they were fine. Like I wouldn't wanna try and take it away for a minute. It just, they, they reminded me of that very much. Yeah.

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[00:27:21] Chris: yeah, but he refuses and a good refusal to call.

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[00:27:25] Phil: license. Right, right. This, this, this the end of his life. Yeah. So [00:27:30] I think the decision is really a hard one. 'cause obviously ultimately he's like, he does it for love or whatever, you know? Right. But yeah, I, I mean, it is the debate scene. It's a very quick debate [00:27:40] scene.

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[00:27:42] Chris: oh, that's so stupid. And he takes off. Yeah. Right. Like,

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[00:27:48] James: And that's when they, the fun and [00:27:50] game starts with him delivering him to Father Cornelius. Or was there another scene in between? Well, there's a, I think

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[00:27:56] Phil: Yeah, of course. Car Chase. They go into the, that's

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[00:28:35] Phil: Uh, yeah. The car chase pursuit by the cops. Uh, I have down Bruce being Bruce 'cause he's got a lot of cool [00:28:40] lines. . , he's, he's, he's in his form, you know? Mm-Hmm.

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[00:28:53] Sherry: why it occurred to me, like watching these four movies that are, you know, very drastically different.

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[00:28:57] Chris: at home in this futuristic world, me and a [00:29:00] cab driver, like very believable that this is his world and this is where he's at. Yes.

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[00:29:16] Phil: Right. I mean, he's, yeah, you just gone.

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[00:29:30] Chris: We don't need you. Corbin. Yeah. He's been preparing his whole life for time. He's been, yeah, I've Exactly, I've been my whole life. 'cause like later on when he, they meet back up when he tells Corbin, you know, we're gonna save the world. And then Corbin's like, you're gonna save [00:29:40] the world. Like really? Yeah.

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[00:29:44] Chris: the door, he thinks I need a priest. And they, I don't, I don't, I didn't catch his line. I've seen it

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[00:29:49] Chris: but Oh, weddings are [00:29:50] down the hall. Yeah. Yeah. No. Okay. Weddings are down the hall. Yeah. Like I got the gist of it that he a cynical,

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[00:30:03] Phil: Uh, so it sets that joke up. Yeah. Nice.

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[00:30:43] Chris: Right, right, right, right. And then there's a doorway with the priest right. When he shows up there. I mean, a little bit later, but

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[00:31:35] Sherry: are, are yelling and you're fired

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[00:31:42] Sherry: but it seems like, all right, man.

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[00:31:47] Chris: it clearly, the way Bruce was lay down on the bed and can talk about the girl [00:31:50] to his boss, that it, it seems like his, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like his boss is gonna be understanding of that, you know? Yeah.

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[00:32:01] James: They worked together. Is that what it was? Okay. I guess I missed some of that. Okay. So I, now, now I think that dynamic is changed. Switched. Okay. So they do have a

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[00:32:10] Sherry: yeah, he refers to Corbin, his major. So, all right. I missed that then.

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[00:32:14] Chris: I guess some of the other funny games too. We, we were introduced to Zo also in this point where he's, you know, selling the guns

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[00:32:22] James: That was always my favorite scene. Yeah. With all the tricks and little cool things that those guns had. Right.

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[00:32:29] Phil: Yeah. My [00:32:30] ma my favorite part of that mo you know, no real killer would've asked about that little red button on the bottom of the gun, you know, a real do in the wool killer. And

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[00:32:43] Chris: Right. Like they're all messing with the gun. What does this button do? And then Yeah. That to the button,

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[00:33:23] James: yeah. It's like , they opens the case and then closes it and then she's like empty. [00:33:30] Oh yeah. Yeah. She laughs and laughs and laughs. And then empty the

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[00:33:52] James: Yeah. Lucason did it the right way. . No,

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[00:33:56] James: It was, it was funny. It was upbeat. It kept the energy going and I really liked it. [00:34:00] He has a,

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[00:34:05] Chris: like a, he's, I think he's talking to the Mandalorian and he is like, why? What's wrong with me?

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[00:34:19] Phil: no. Any, [00:34:20] uh, yeah, Zork, uh, Gary Oldman anytime.

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[00:34:25] Chris: everything. And there's this reoccurring deal with him saying, I know like a father. [00:34:30] Oh, you're a monster. Juan says you're a monster. I know. Yeah. Yeah. And then, um, later on, uh, when his, uh, right hand man fails him, he's like, this is never happening again. I know. And then he blows him up.

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[00:34:56] Chris: I know. And then disappointed, like he says a lot, you know, about being disappointed. [00:35:00] I'm so disappointed. Yeah. You know, anyhow, that's good stuff. Uh, I like the idea, just a little gag of, uh, the Chinese food right at your door. Like he's getting like legit [00:35:10] Chinese food, but he didn't have to leave his apartment.

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[00:35:23] Phil: Yeah. That'd be sweet if they just pulled right up.

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[00:35:33] Chris: and clearly the rapport he had, he's ordered from this guy before and

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[00:35:41] James: But it was a

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[00:35:46] James: So second act fun and games we're still in

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[00:35:48] Chris: and games. Uh, I think, I think everything [00:35:50] we're seeing is fun games. Yeah. Yeah. Um, what'd you have as the midpoint, Phil?

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[00:36:01] Phil: Like they, they, they get to, 'cause there's this whole sequence, which I thought was also was done very well about different people trying to impersonate [00:36:10] Corbin Dallas, Corbin, Dallas. 'cause all the parties, how they get there I thought was done well. Um, yeah, every party is interested for their own reasons [00:36:20] to impersonate Corbin Dallas and to get to right floss in Paradise.

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[00:37:01] Chris: And there's still Mandals and Zurich out there.

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[00:37:06] Chris: I mean, he's his goal. He says, I'm not looking, I'm looking

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[00:37:14] Chris: He's alone. He wakes

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[00:37:18] Chris: say that. And the opening image, his opening [00:37:20] image is waking up alone. '

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[00:37:26] Chris: It's him and his cat. Yeah. The love of his life, in a way is a cat.

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[00:37:33] James: stranded on the moon, .

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[00:37:46] Phil: Fixed it where he would have to because Correct. Apparently it's very hard to get to floss impaired. [00:37:50] All the, everything is booked like nobody could get there. That's why everybody needs to impersonate. It's like

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[00:38:00] Phil: So, I mean, like, he was, so I, I, I think I, you, you're probably right, but I think he was. He was going to get those tickets, whether he wanted 'em or not. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. [00:38:10] So I, I just thought like, once he finally got to floss in Paradise, it was after all of this conflict and people try and take him out and impersonate him and, uh Right.

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[00:38:19] James: now he's there. Now [00:38:20] he's, now he's, he's lowering himself into the sleep chamber. He's,

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[00:38:23] Chris: But he didn't even get to be with her. I feel like it centers around because

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[00:38:26] Chris: It's the hour wait and then there knocks him out. He can't even, he [00:38:30] finally got a moment alone with her, and then he gets knocked out, you know, I mean, with the, the,

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[00:38:38] Phil: Like it's his emotional [00:38:40] one, which is her, like, if he, if he saves the world, he gets her. Yeah. So, yeah. You know, the, the two tracks have to have to join. Right, right. So yeah, I think, I think [00:38:50] maybe the emotional midpoint I would agree is, is is

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[00:38:54] Phil: back in his life because he thought he'd lost it. Yeah.

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[00:39:04] James: he's there. Right. And now, now that kinda makes sense is when they wake up, she's gone [00:39:10] out of the little, little thing. Yeah. He has to find her and the first thing he basically says to her is, this isn't a vacation.

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[00:39:30] Phil: I'm, I'm, I'm the fifth

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[00:39:32] James: Right? Yeah. And he's like, no, first time I'm talking to you, let me, let me do this. Right. She ends up kicking all the ass. Yeah,

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[00:39:41] Chris: he's still trying to solve it his his way Yes. His way, right? Yeah. His way with violence and kicking in doors and shooting people up or whatever. And, um, and even I thought it was interesting [00:39:50] that the father

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[00:39:55] Phil: He's like, please forgive me, black Bruce

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[00:40:00] Phil: what I did, you know? Yeah, right, right. No, I, I I thought the, I thought that was played well or whatever. Yeah. So, yeah. So midpoint is, is, I think we're hitting both [00:40:10] pretty close.

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[00:40:18] Chris: mid, and then we meet Ruby [00:40:20] Rod. You know, it reminds me of Cisco Rod. Remember Cisco? Oh yeah. Song very much reminds me of song. Yeah. It reminds, yeah. The thong song, right?

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[00:40:29] Phil: [00:40:30] is Cisco? What? Who was that? Yeah.

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[00:40:31] Chris: worry about it. No, just an artist. But yeah, just I, James said yes, and so that's all I needed. Okay. One person go. Yeah, I agree. So, yeah, bad guys close in. So we've [00:40:40] got the police coming to Corbin's apartment. Uh, Corbin has Lilu and Father Cornelius.

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[00:40:44] Sherry: auto wash thing we talked about earlier. Um, and, and I guess for me, 'cause mine's earlier, it's just her coming back [00:40:50] into his life. So I guess these might not be

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[00:40:52] Phil: they're probably still under my funny games. Under your funny games. 'cause the bad guys close in. I have, they get to flossing and the Mangalore and Zor by proxy.

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[00:41:05] James: So just, just to be clear, real quick though, the Mangalo, uh, after the [00:41:10] gun scene, Zor pissed them off. So now Sorg is trying to get the stones, the Mangalore are trying to get the stones from Zo to hold them captive.

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[00:41:30] Phil: Yeah, there's at least three. 'cause they're all trying to, which I, that whole sequence of getting, trying to impersonate.

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[00:42:13] Chris: So, yeah. Yeah, that's good. It's kind of cool. And there's, yeah. Anyhow, he goes in there and then, yeah. Yeah. '

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[00:42:35] Sherry: down to, yeah.

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[00:42:38] Sherry: violence I guess because that like [00:42:40] payback revenge,

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[00:42:42] Phil: all the, the

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[00:42:46] Sherry: the answer that doesn't ultimately saved them.

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[00:42:58] Chris: that shot me up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck these guys.

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[00:43:09] Phil: up [00:43:10] doesn't Well, yeah. 'cause the, the stones are in the, in the diva Diva.

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[00:43:26] James: cause Z goes to . Flossed in Paradise to just do it himself. Yep. He's [00:43:30] frustrated and he finds himself, he finds the mistaken bucks that the Mon not Manchins, the Mangalore found.

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[00:43:38] Phil: Yeah. No, [00:43:40] right. Yeah. 'cause he was like, if you gotta do something, you gotta do it yourself. And you know, so you think, anyway, they're not in the case. So, uh, there were a couple of, there was a, [00:43:50] a scene or two here and Sherry noticed it also, uh, sort of reminiscent of, of diehard, like when he's, um, uh, being shot at by the mandalorians or whatever and, [00:44:00] and he's hiding.

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[00:44:16] Phil: Right, right. With the explosion behind him. I was talking about also when

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[00:44:20] Chris: Yeah. The air ducts. Yes. Yes. Hiding in the air ducts. She pulls to Joe McLean for sure.

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[00:44:35] James: Yeah. And when I was a kid, I thought it was, he can't hear anything 'cause he's [00:44:40] stoned out. I thought, oh, he's this big celebrity. He's stoned. No, he's stoned. Deaf. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Never caught the deaf part. So now the throw me the gun. Makes

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[00:44:51] Phil: Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I thought he was

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[00:44:58] Phil: right. Right. [00:45:00] Yeah. So then there's a negotiation. So, uh, I have a false victory at the midpoint. And of course, ALS lost a false defeat. Is that what that what is your false defeat?

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[00:45:28] Phil: Uh, yeah, no,

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[00:45:45] Chris: You know, being Bruce Will so just starts taking 'em all out.

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[00:45:50] Chris: Yeah. Right, right. Which I think to, to the back to the diehard references, um, like if you're gonna have a movie there with a bunch of action, if you've got Bruce Willis in your movie and

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[00:46:08] Sherry: cool now, but they're not, [00:46:10] you know, I guess look at another stuff in the movie now as opposed to when I was 15 or whatever when this came out. . Yeah. Yeah.

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[00:46:38] Phil: Yeah, no, that's what happens I guess. And [00:46:40] she's near death

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[00:46:42] Chris: Well, dark

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[00:46:45] Chris: what's his brick into three

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[00:47:00] Phil: Yeah. So just I guess prior to getting the stones, there's a lot of loss here for Bruce and everybody, right? Yeah. The break into three I have is, uh, [00:47:10] and, and, and this I was, I was a little unsure of this. Uh, they steals org ship The Evil is heading for, or they get the, the idea that the evil is heading for Earth.[00:47:20]

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[00:47:35] James: Yeah. RG gets there after realizing the stones are not in the second case that he's got [00:47:40] Yeah.

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[00:47:44] Phil: ship. Yeah, yeah. Because that was passing, like they go in the elevator and here comes rg. So he misses. So the, the [00:47:50] break in the three, the third act is the storming of the castle and all that I have as them getting to the temple in Egypt.

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[00:47:59] James: of the second [00:48:00] act would be Zor blowing up on Floss in Paradise, is that right

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[00:48:07] James: Egypt. Now, now they're going to fight the big bad, which is [00:48:10] Yes, Mr. Shadow. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so now it's third act.

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[00:48:15] Phil: But I think, I think Chris,

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[00:48:29] Chris: And I found Lee [00:48:30] Lou like, that doesn't ring true to me. That that's a false defeat. You know,

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[00:48:49] Phil: But yeah, [00:48:50] it, it seems that, that they, the, the victory is getting to flossing, but then things happen and they don't have the stones until he figures out that they're in the diva. [00:49:00] And he, but Lilu is, but then he's gotta

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[00:49:05] Chris: Yeah. Is. Him. She says, the stones are in me. She needs you, Corbin. [00:49:10] Yeah. Right. And again, he's still doing it the wrong way. Right. 'cause he is not willing to profess his love, which comes later. But I'm gonna do it my way. He picks up the gun, he picks out the stones are in her, and he tells Ruby, hold on to [00:49:20] these.

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[00:49:44] Sherry: breaking of three or something. Like, it doesn't, you know, there's a, another

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[00:49:49] Chris: Uh, I think [00:49:50] there may be blurry. I mean, yeah, he and I disagree. Did he

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[00:49:58] Phil: was a very funny scene.

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[00:50:12] Chris: thing. Just hold him. That's true. And then Ruby

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[00:50:18] Chris: Oh, I'm sorry. And apologizing to him when [00:50:20]

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[00:50:20] James: Yeah, that makes more sense. Kinda linear. Like Bruce Willis hadn't turned that corner yet, right? He was still trying to do the right thing. Yeah,

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[00:50:32] Chris: even. Like even the way the president and then the Monroe react to the way he

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[00:50:38] Sherry: Yeah. You know, where did he learn that? [00:50:40] I wonder how did he learn to negotiate like that? This is what you

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[00:50:49] James: after the [00:50:50] all is lost, false defeat, because

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[00:51:13] Chris: getting the stones escaping off from the bomb. Like it's all one big action sequence to me. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think, um, but again, [00:51:20] it's interesting that we disagree. Well, I think the beats made me a little blurry and that's why we disagree.

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[00:51:30] Phil: Situation. To another and until they had the stones and are ready to storm the castle. Yeah. So to speak. I, I just, I guess I just, I'm not saying you're wrong, I guess I just, maybe I was looking [00:51:40] for too linear a break because when they take off to go to Egypt, they're storming the castle, which is essentially the third act, uh, gathering the team and all that other [00:51:50] stuff, right?

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[00:51:52] James: make sense though? The, the way that the second, the second act started, or the first act ended was him driving off in the taxi? Yes. The third act starts [00:52:00] with them heading in the ship. So that, that's where I would think the third break would be. Yeah. No, I mean

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[00:52:10] Chris: Yeah. 'cause like, 'cause it's 'cause of the, the whole break in the three is, and the Dark Knight is another debate scene. Like the catalyst, I can either do something about this or I can just let it happen. Yeah. Right, right. He's [00:52:20] already recovered the stones. He's already got Li Lou, like, where were they headed?

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[00:52:30] Sherry: mean, that's unclear if that's the choice. Yeah. And so I feel like the choice, you know, either they're surrounded by bad

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[00:52:39] Sherry: or wait [00:52:40] and get killed or captured, or whatever's gonna happen.

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[00:52:43] Chris: shot at and captured, where the hell is lilu at?

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[00:53:00] Chris: into three ought be also learning his lesson Yeah. And dealing with it and with love, which he doesn't. So this word, I guess goes to

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[00:53:30] Phil: Yeah. Uh, but there's still lilu I guess, but yeah. Um, yeah, I, I can see what you're saying. 'cause once he gets the stones, it's not necessarily a bad thing anymore. Right. Yeah. Right. So that could be [00:53:40] where the third act starts. And

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[00:53:44] Chris: And I would,

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[00:53:47] Chris: fun, Lou, everything's safe. Oh, nope. No, it's [00:53:50] not as far planet

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[00:54:50] James: the false defeat would be there at the end where Liu just doesn't want to do it. But I don't know. Yeah.

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[00:55:14] Phil: is, I don't, and, and these things aren't a hundred percent rigid. I mean more [00:55:20] guides than anything.

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[00:55:39] Phil: So, yeah. Uh, [00:55:40] very quickly, I just had the gathering of the team. So the team is essentially gathered, but they gotta work together to try to figure out what, how these stones work. And [00:55:50] it isn't until the young priest discovers, uh, which I thought I thought was pretty clever, you know? Yeah, no, I like the way they did that.

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[00:55:58] Chris: gonna make it, and they'll [00:56:00] just stand there. Yeah. I, I, you know, I even Ruby Rods comment about

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[00:56:06] Phil: to get the broke one. Right? So a lot of, a lot of good sequences there. [00:56:10] The, the high tower surprise. Okay, so you, they storm the castle, but then there's a, another setback.

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[00:56:25] James: That would be the one thing I would think that would be passed along through generations [00:56:30] of that priesthood is how you operate the damn stones.

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[00:56:34] Chris: In theory. He keeps saying In theory. In theory, but, but

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[00:56:43] James: that maybe, maybe the professor at the beginning of the movie hadn't gotten that far, or,

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[00:56:48] Phil: Yeah. Well, okay. [00:56:50] Yeah, the dig, the dig deep down I have is this conversation that he has with Lilo that you know, that you are just gonna destroy yourselves. What's it worth saving for? And you know. Yeah. Yeah. And he says, [00:57:00] well. Love or whatever. And, and so love is worth saving, you know? I mean, she, she

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[00:57:29] Phil: So [00:57:30] to your point that he was alone, he's looking for his perfect woman. Well, at the end, he's not alone. He's happy and he's got his perfect woman. I, I really liked that scene and [00:57:40] I really liked . That very, the, the, the freeze frame image of them smiling at each other with the, I thought I even liked the blue, like the blue and Yeah.

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[00:57:53] James: I really like the song that's playing under there. Like, I'll let that play. Yeah. Yeah. It's so

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[00:58:00] Chris: yeah, for some it's all the right

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[00:58:06] Phil: Uh, I I liked this movie. I really did. Yeah.

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[00:58:26] Phil: Possible. Definitely a false defeat because

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[00:58:36] James: that, that had to, that has to make sense because when

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[00:58:43] Phil: up. We only see him fall asleep. Yeah. Up. No,

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[00:58:46] Phil: Yeah. No, but Lily was still awake. Lily li Yeah. She

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[00:58:55] James: Yeah. That kind of makes sense.

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[00:59:01] Sherry: thing. Yes. This alien, cosmic entity, planet guy, whatever it is. Another

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[00:59:07] Chris: and guns won't in his way.

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[00:59:11] Phil: can tell the show you loved this movie. Yeah.

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[00:59:21] Sherry: I don't, I don't like that type of sci-fi y'all. Y'all are naming all these.

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[00:59:27] James: the races or the, the breeds. Yeah. And I'm like, [00:59:30]

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[00:59:35] Phil: Yeah. No, she, uh, she doesn't like time travel for the same reason all. I don't like

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[00:59:48] Sherry: However, [00:59:50] um, I mean this, this movie, it was worth watching once. Yeah. Right. I won't watch it again. .

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[00:59:57] Sherry: it, it, yeah. It had its moments. It, it was [01:00:00] funny. Um, yeah, it's weird. I mean, it's out there for sure.

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[01:00:11] Phil: I can't watch 'em. Like, I don't like Kubrick. Kubrick is that way anyway. Right. , but you know, like, I feel the same way about 2001, I, [01:00:20] that whole scene at the end with the baby and the embryo. Come on man. Gimme something. At least, you know, you just don't get it, Phil. I don't. You just don't get it, Don. I absolutely do not get it.

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[01:00:28] Sherry: the traffic scenes in this movie [01:00:30] were too chaotic for me. Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm like, uh, okay, what, what's the fog and why are they, you know, I

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[01:00:45] James: Even the ads in the background and the cars, they were just, they were great. [01:00:50] Yeah. And so it added that anxiety for me when you see all that Oh yeah. Zooming around, you're

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[01:01:01] Phil: Yeah. Because it was so much, there is so much, and then there's a whole nother disc. To the, to the one I have, which I'm sure is nice because [01:01:10] they kept making, if you wanna know more about this, watch the such and such documentary on the disc and like, oh my God. Wow. So yeah, you could, we could, yeah. Anyway, very stylistic.

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[01:01:24] James: Yeah. I would say, you know, kind of take it back to the beginning of the podcast of, I don't know [01:01:30] how that story would be stretched into three movies as it was intended, but the world that might be cool to see another story in that world.

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[01:01:41] Phil: Well, the thing, yeah. I mean the idea of flying like minor, this world almost feels like minority report, right? With the world. Only have like flying cars or Yeah, [01:01:50] yeah. Yeah. That's obviously more serious. It's not a comedy or whatever.

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[01:01:55] Chris: a comedy, but, and even the, the cigarette dispenser in his house, the, it's only for a day. Your [01:02:00] goal is to quit. Yeah. My goal

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[01:02:02] James: it was extra long filters. . Yeah. A little bit of cigarette. You get like two puffs on it and it's

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[01:02:10] Phil: Overcrowded, obviously. Yeah, no, it, it's actually, I,

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[01:02:26] Chris: It's the future, but

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[01:02:31] Phil: of thing. You think this world almost like, you know, if you looked at, uh, judge dread right? That that world Yeah. Could be the same city, but that is dark and depressing, right? I mean, right. Yeah. No, [01:02:40] I'm living,

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[01:02:41] Chris: I think is the judge.

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[01:02:46] Phil: the same, same kind of feel of the city just as a Yeah. Make a city

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[01:02:55] Chris: Alright. So I'd, I'd give it a recommend. I think Sherry would definitely give it a recommend playing hard. Recommend [01:03:00] Sherry. Yeah. Hard pass. Just one time. . One time.

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[01:03:09] Chris: [01:03:10] that once so to, to, to say I've

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[01:03:13] Sherry: Of course. Yeah. Yeah. There was no way, well, blind date. I wish I hadn't watched it.

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[01:03:20] Phil: well you talk about the two directors though, the competence and the vision of, now I don't want to slam Blake Edwards 'cause he makes a certain kind of movie and he probably did that well, [01:03:30] but, so maybe it's apples and oranges, but just in terms of storytelling, I don't think you go to a Blake Edwards movie to get a story though.

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[01:03:56] James: Bologna sandwiches, baloney.

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[01:04:04] Phil: pass, consider, recommend. I actually had, I

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[01:04:13] Phil: Yeah. No, I would, I'd give it a hard recommend. I, I, I enjoyed it.

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[01:04:17] James: If I was a producer, I'd put my money on it. [01:04:20] Yeah. Very good. Even though Luke Besan would have me nowhere near set. Right. I'd put money on it.

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[01:04:29] James: [01:04:30] Yeah. God. Can you imagine the producer sitting there going, what is this?

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[01:04:34] Phil: making? Right. Well, I, and, and then you look at something like Leo, which is a totally . [01:04:40] Different film. I mean, it's a modern day, you know? But both of those films are amazing, right?

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[01:04:46] Phil: driven. Oh yeah. So, yeah. So it's the competence of [01:04:50] the storyteller that I, I mean, I think Bosan has for sure, has really Got it.

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[01:04:58] James: Hopefully they, [01:05:00] hopefully whoever listens to it can watch fifth Element with a little bit more, uh, perspective now.

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[01:05:06] Chris: maybe we'll take Sherry's approach and Multipass,

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[01:05:12] Phil: Yes, yes, yes. Alright, we're out. I. You just don't get it, Phil. I don't. You just don't get it. I absolutely do not get it.

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[01:05:22] Phil: Yeah. I dunno who likes these things.

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[01:05:30] Sherry: okay.

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[01:05:35] Phil: an innocent of sudden event. A life at death. Fuck he, he made this roll. [01:05:40] His very old.

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[01:05:46] James: That's a good problem to have. ,

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[01:05:51] Chris: Yeah. Right. The perfect is not her name.

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Fellowship Of The Reel
One movie review podcast to rule them all
A single movie is more powerful than a thousand realities...or something.
Come to Fellowship Of The Reel, a movie review podcast beyond the furthest reaches of your imagination.
Four movie fans meet to discuss, debate, and ultimately review movies of their own choosing.
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About your hosts

Philip McClimon

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Philip A. McClimon is an author who likes to write about the end of the world (post apocalyptic, Sci/Fi), mostly because he thinks the shopping would be awesome (No crowds, everything free). He likes heroes that are the strong, silent type and not necessarily male. By silent he means up until the time there is something snarky to say, usually before, during, and after doing something cool.

He writes Urban Fantasy under the name Billy Baltimore for no other reason than that he likes the name. Many of the same rules for his other stories apply to Billy’s, strong silent types, smart mouth, does cool stuff, but these stories take place in a made up town called Hemisphere and involve stuff you only ever hear about on late night conspiracy talk show podcasts, which are, if you think about it, pretty awesome too.

So, that's Phil. He's not strong, rarely silent, and isn't known for doing a lot of cool things.

But his characters are.

Sherry McClimon

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The wife of Philip McClimon. Probably all that needs to be said. She is responsible for his bad behavior not being worse than it is. She is concerned that her mother might listen.

James Harris

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James Harris is a tech guru and musician extraordinaire; he also loves movies. A pretty decent guy all around.

Chris Sapp

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Chris Sapp has been a friend for a lot of years and a writer for a lot more. An encyclopedic knowledge of story and movies, he can take you on a deep dive into script and screen. Another pretty decent guy, which are the only kind allowed around here.