A Journey Through Time: Revisiting 'The Fifth Element' After 25 Years
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This podcast episode delves into the cinematic intricacies of "The Fifth Element," paying homage to Bruce Willis in light of his recent diagnosis. We explore the film’s profound themes, particularly the dichotomy of love and violence, as embodied by the protagonist Corbin Dallas, portrayed by Willis. The discussion unfolds around the film's mechanical level, revealing the meticulous craftsmanship that underlies its unique visual and narrative style. We examine the film's cultural impact, noting its cult following and the dichotomy between critical reception and audience adoration. Ultimately, this episode serves as both an analysis and a tribute to a film that has captivated audiences since its release, highlighting its enduring relevance in the realm of science fiction cinema.
The Fellowship Of The Reel reviews THE FIFTH ELEMENT
Part One of a four episode Yippy Kai Yay tribute to the great Mr. Bruce Willis. Join us as we celebrate four of Bruce's films and try and say thank you for years of great movies.
Our thoughts and prayers go out to Mr. Willis and his entire family.
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The discussion centers on the film 'The Fifth Element', a notable science fiction piece directed by Luc Besson that celebrates its 25th anniversary. The speakers delve into the film's intricate narrative, which revolves around Corbin Dallas, a cab driver played by Bruce Willis, who becomes embroiled in an intergalactic conflict when Leeloo, the embodiment of the Fifth Element, falls into his cab. The episode highlights the film’s unique visual style and its blend of various genres, including action and comedy, while also acknowledging the mixed critical reception it received upon release. The speakers reflect on their personal experiences with the film, sharing how it has developed a cult following over the years, with some viewers expressing strong emotional connections to its characters and themes. They emphasize that the film, despite its flaws, offers a rich tapestry of ideas about love, sacrifice, and the essence of humanity, culminating in a final message that resonates with the audience.
Takeaways:
- The podcast episode thoroughly examines the film 'The Fifth Element', emphasizing its unique narrative structure and character development.
- The speakers express a deep appreciation for Bruce Willis's performance, highlighting how his portrayal resonates with the audience.
- An analysis is conducted on the film's visual aesthetics, noting the vibrant world-building and stylistic choices that define its futuristic setting.
- The discussion includes reflections on the film's themes, particularly the exploration of love and sacrifice in the face of impending destruction.
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Bruce Willis
- Milla Jovovich
- Ian Holm
- Chris Tucker
- Gary Oldman
- Robert Mark Kamen
- Luc Besson
- Transporter
- Taken
- Angel Has Fallen
- The Karate Kid
- Gladiator
- Die Hard
- Under Siege
- The Fifth Element
- Fellowship of the Ring
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Transcript
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Speaker B:Studying a movie in the mechanical level, I think can really bring some revelations.
Speaker C:I believe that no one sets out to make a bad movie with the exception of.
Speaker D:On paper.
Speaker D:This should work.
Speaker B:This should work.
Speaker D:I just don't like it.
Speaker A:That's your own fault if you haven't seen it.
Speaker B:Way over budget.
Speaker B:Start cutting scenes.
Speaker B:Even the actors don't know what that movie is about.
Speaker B:Shit, I wish I wrote that.
Speaker C:Which I love the title, but that movie's trash.
Speaker B:Well, it's oatmeal, man.
Speaker B:It's good for you.
Speaker B:Okay, here we are again.
Speaker B:Fellowship of the real four people sitting around talking about movies one picks and we all review.
Speaker B:Starting out the first four episodes, we're going to make a tribute to Mr.
Speaker B:Bruce Willis.
Speaker B:In light of his recent diagnosis and all the great entertainment he's brought us over the years, we wanted to do something to sort of give tribute to him.
Speaker B:And so the first four movies that we're going to review are going to be Bruce Willis movies.
Speaker B:And this time we are looking at the fifth element.
Speaker B:And this was a pick by Chris.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C: This movie was made in: Speaker C:It actually came out to the month 25 years ago.
Speaker C:I wish I could take credit for that.
Speaker C:It was 100% happy.
Speaker C:Accident is the one anniversary.
Speaker C:25th.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:25Th.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:To the month, which I think was interesting.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Again, can't take credit for that.
Speaker C:Well, just an accident.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So I'm gonna go to the plot real quick.
Speaker C:In the 23rd century, a new York cabbie, Corbin Dallas, played by Bruce Willis, finds the fate of the world in his hands when Leeloo, played by Milla Jehovic, falls into his cab.
Speaker C:As the embodiment of the fifth Element, Leeloo needs to combine the other four to keep approaching great evil from destroying the world.
Speaker C:Together with father Cornelius, played by Ian Holm, and zany broadcaster Ruby Rod, played by Chris Tucker, Dallas must race against time and the wicked industrialist Zorg, played by Gary Oldman, to save humanity.
Speaker B:Yeah, the one I found was like a sentence.
Speaker C:Much better.
Speaker B:Well, no, no, yours is better.
Speaker B:I don't know who writes these things in the color.
Speaker C:I wrote mine, Phil.
Speaker C:I didn't just pull.
Speaker B:Did you write yours?
Speaker C:I did not.
Speaker C:I'm lying my ass off.
Speaker C:Go ahead.
Speaker B:It says, in the colorful future, a cab driver unwittingly becomes the central figure in the search for a legendary cosmic weapon, the to keep Evil and Mr.
Speaker B:Zorg at bay.
Speaker C:So that's like from a TV guide you had laying around.
Speaker B:I don't Know, I thought it was the IMDb.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker D:Yeah, that's the.
Speaker D:That's the synopsis there on IMDb.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:See, I should have gone with that just because it was.
Speaker B:Well, no, no, I just.
Speaker B:It's funny.
Speaker D:That's your elevator pitch for Fifth Element, right?
Speaker C:Versus the.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, I mean, like, some of these things are.
Speaker B:Did you mention the budget or.
Speaker C:No, I haven't yet.
Speaker C:Nope.
Speaker C:I can.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, go ahead.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So it was a 90 million budget.
Speaker C:So pretty big for.
Speaker C:For the times.
Speaker C:Especially for the director, Lucone.
Speaker C:That was, I think, his biggest of the time.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Movies.
Speaker C:100 comes in 126 minutes.
Speaker C:And so, yeah, 90 million.
Speaker C:It opened to 17 million for opening weekend and then ended up making like 263 million by the end.
Speaker C:So definitely, I guess, a big hit and making its money back despite, I guess, kind of mixed reviews.
Speaker C:I think it still has mixed reviews from what I was.
Speaker C:Well, we're reading.
Speaker C:Some people loved it, Some people hate.
Speaker C:Like, very divisive film, I guess.
Speaker B:Well, like on Rotten Tomatoes, both critics and the fans like it.
Speaker B:Like, like it 70% tomato and 86% on the fan.
Speaker B:So fans liked it more than critics.
Speaker B:Critics, yeah.
Speaker B:But I think this movie has probably developed a bit of a cult following, too.
Speaker B:Like, I discovered it after the theater.
Speaker B:I don't think I ever knew about this in the theater.
Speaker D:I remember seeing it in the theater opening weekend.
Speaker D:I knew nothing about the movie.
Speaker D:My brother, he graduated that year.
Speaker D:My brother, off of school took me, his little brother, he used to do that.
Speaker D:Just come on.
Speaker D:I'm babysitting.
Speaker D:You're coming with me.
Speaker B:That's cool.
Speaker D:And I remember sitting, not first row, but maybe second row, looking up at that screen, going, this is the.
Speaker D:This is an awesome movie.
Speaker D:I was 13, 14 years old.
Speaker D:I loved it immediately.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker B:That's good.
Speaker A:Okay, well, I've been trying to avoid watching it all these years.
Speaker B:Sherry does not like sci fi.
Speaker B:This was a struggle for her.
Speaker B:I think it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:All right, all right.
Speaker B:I mean, plus, it's French, right?
Speaker B:Like, it had a lot of French.
Speaker D:Yeah, it was Luc Besson's baby.
Speaker D:It was written, directed by him.
Speaker D:He basically told the producers as they gave him money for the project.
Speaker D:Leave me alone.
Speaker D:You're not invited on set.
Speaker D:I'm doing what I want to do.
Speaker D:This.
Speaker D:If this was his vision coming out, I think he knocked it out because previously he had done Leon the Professional.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I was about Subway Nikita.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:Leon is.
Speaker C:And then Lucy was later.
Speaker C:But yeah.
Speaker C:And then I mean, so, yeah, he did write it.
Speaker C:And he's.
Speaker C:He's the director.
Speaker C:He also.
Speaker C:He did have a co writer, I guess.
Speaker C:I just wanted to mention Robert Mark Kamen was his co writer on this.
Speaker C:That guy.
Speaker C:That guy's got some chops too.
Speaker C:He wrote Taps.
Speaker B:He wrote the Karate Kid that in the theater.
Speaker D:Karate Kid.
Speaker C:The Karate Kid trilogy.
Speaker C:Did all of them originals with tape.
Speaker C:The originals, yes.
Speaker C:He wrote Gladiator.
Speaker C:Not the one with Russell Crowe, but the one like you were getting junior.
Speaker C:The boxing one in the 90s.
Speaker C:I put that on there because I like that movie, but it's cheesy.
Speaker C:And Then lethal weapon 3, the transporter taken and angel was Fallen.
Speaker B:Dang.
Speaker C:And then also like with Transporter Taken, like, Luca Song was involved in those movies as well.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Leon the Professional is amazing.
Speaker B:I love that movie.
Speaker D:Yeah, that's a great team.
Speaker C:Oh, and Kiss.
Speaker C:And Kiss.
Speaker C:A Dragon.
Speaker D:Devil's Advocate.
Speaker D:Punisher, the Original Punisher from 89, it looks like.
Speaker B:Dang.
Speaker B:Is that one with Dolph Lundgren.
Speaker B:Oh, Dolph Lundgren.
Speaker D:And Academy Award winning movie, Under Siege.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah, that's best music.
Speaker B:I think that one underseas that.
Speaker B:Die Hard on a Boat.
Speaker D:That was Steven Seagal.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah, but it's good.
Speaker C:I like it.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:I mean, I haven't seen a long time, but I remember enjoying it.
Speaker C:And yeah, I mean, it's definitely Die Hard on a Boat, but just like speeds.
Speaker C:Die Hard on a Bus.
Speaker C:But Speed is also a very good movie in my opinion.
Speaker C:Like, it's better than Under Siege.
Speaker C:But yeah, like, I was pretty big Seagal fan.
Speaker C:I liked Van Damme better.
Speaker C:But yeah, Under Siege is one of his.
Speaker C:His better movies, I think.
Speaker D:Wow.
Speaker D:And Academy Award winning.
Speaker D:Like I said.
Speaker B:Is it an Academy Award winning.
Speaker C:What did it win?
Speaker D:Best music.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:What didn't win?
Speaker C:Best acting from Seagal.
Speaker C:For sure.
Speaker D:Editing.
Speaker D:Best.
Speaker C:Tommy Lee Jones and Gary Busey in that.
Speaker C:They're.
Speaker C:They're a lot of fun.
Speaker B:You know, Knife in the top of the head I thought was amazing.
Speaker B:Anyway, I'm just a cook, Right?
Speaker C:Wrong.
Speaker B:All right, so.
Speaker B:So what, did you have this as a genre again?
Speaker C:I didn't do that part of the homework.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I have dude with the problem.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's probably.
Speaker C:I was gonna say dude with the problem.
Speaker B:I thought this was almost a no brainer.
Speaker B:As a.
Speaker B:Yeah, because he's.
Speaker C:He's minding his own business.
Speaker C:Which is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:The first point on dude with the Problem.
Speaker B:An innocent.
Speaker B:A sudden event.
Speaker B:Life and death struggle.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So, guys, just a cavity, mind his own business, falls into his lap, a.
Speaker B:Sudden event literally dropping through the roof of his cab.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And life and death.
Speaker B:You can't ask for more than that.
Speaker C:With a couple more notes here.
Speaker C:Just real quick.
Speaker C:So I thought it was interesting.
Speaker C:Besson started writing this when he was 16.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker C:Yeah, like coming up with a story and then he was 38 when it came out in the cinemas, so something, you know, it stuck with him for a while.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And he kept messing with it.
Speaker D:Originally it was supposed to be a trilogy that he had compressed into the final film, but it was going to be a trilogy series.
Speaker D:I don't.
Speaker C:He had like a 400 page script at one point.
Speaker C:Explains that link.
Speaker D:Yeah, I don't.
Speaker D:I don't see how that world could be stretched into three films.
Speaker D:I think the one movie was.
Speaker C:I could.
Speaker C:I don't know, I could see I could do it into a trilogy.
Speaker C:As far as the.
Speaker C:The scope of the world now, the story, I don't know what he would tell, but yeah, I feel like the story served its purpose.
Speaker D:Yeah, the story one time, but the.
Speaker C:World'S big enough, I think, for anything else.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So Besson approached Bruce Willis and Mel Gibson initially for the lead.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker C:And then I guess I'm having a hard time picturing that in my head.
Speaker C:I keep thinking like this Mad Max type version of Mel Gibson or something.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:Yeah, but obviously he passed and Bruce Willis was interested, but he was worried about the.
Speaker C:He had just come off Hudson Hawk and Billy Bathgate, so he was worried about it being a risky project.
Speaker C:And then Bassan was worried about what Bruce will would cost, so he made the decision to go with a less expensive actor.
Speaker C:And I guess he was like having some sort of meeting.
Speaker C:And then somebody got Bruce Willis on the phone and Luke Bestseller was like, hey, man, I just want to say hi.
Speaker C:And then he like told him over the phone that, hey, I'm gonna go with somebody not as expensive and apparently ran.
Speaker C:Bruce Willis goes, well, look, man, if I like the script, we can come to arrangement.
Speaker C:So he sent him the script and he goes, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker B:Oh, sweet.
Speaker C:So, well, you know, hinting there he took some sort of pay cut, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:To do it.
Speaker B:Well, he's done.
Speaker B:I don't know about pay, but he's done uncredited references, like in Tarantino's grindhouse movies or whatever.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:Sherry pointed this out about his hair.
Speaker B:About his hair.
Speaker B:Like his hair is blonde.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker B:And his hair is blonde in the Jackal.
Speaker B:And I was like, okay, when did the Jackal come out?
Speaker B:Well, Jackal came out the same year.
Speaker B:Interesting that Fifth element was.
Speaker B:And I don't know this, but I'm wondering if he wasn't either starting production on the Jackal or certainly he couldn't been filming at the same time.
Speaker B:But his hair is exactly the same color in this movie as it is in the character he plays in the Jackal.
Speaker B:And they both came out in 97.
Speaker B:I don't know when.
Speaker C:Yeah, maybe not.
Speaker C:I saw it and that's one part of the research.
Speaker C:I meant to look up, but I didn't like.
Speaker C:I know for a fact that Besson, like Luc Besson, his hair looks like that at certain times in his life.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:So it's almost like he modeled the character after himself.
Speaker C:And then in the movie Subway, Christopher Lambert, his hair is dyed blonde just like that as well.
Speaker C:And he's not.
Speaker C:So I feel like it's a Besson thing.
Speaker C:Like Tim Burton a lot of times will have his characters like his females a lot of times have dark hair and very pale skin.
Speaker C:Like even his characters or his male characters too.
Speaker C:Some sort of aesthetic thing that the directors like to do.
Speaker C:So I felt like it was something that Besson did.
Speaker C:But yeah, maybe, you know, he was filming Jackal at the same time and didn't want to mess with the hair.
Speaker B:Yeah, because you're.
Speaker C:I mean, how many movies does Bruce Willis have blonde hair?
Speaker C:Not like these two, maybe, you know.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Like, not a lot.
Speaker C:Prince was originally cast as Ruby Rudd, which I think would have worked and would have been really interesting.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, I think Chris Tucker.
Speaker B:Chris Tucker, Yeah.
Speaker B:I think he, he, he made this role his very own.
Speaker C:No, I agree.
Speaker C:I just said, like, when I hear Prince, I'm like, yeah, that would have worked.
Speaker C:And I guess there was a scheduling conflict.
Speaker C:He couldn't.
Speaker C:So apparently Chris Tucker beat out Jamie.
Speaker D:Foxx as well for Ruby Rod is a point of contention for a lot of people.
Speaker D:I've read some people absolutely hate that character.
Speaker D:Every time he comes on, it's like nails on a chalkboard.
Speaker D:Yeah, I can.
Speaker D:I get it, I see it.
Speaker D:But I also see it from that 14 year old me.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Sitting here watching that, going, oh, my God, he's a cartoon character.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:No, I, I dug in this time.
Speaker A:I mean, Yeah, I didn't have a problem with.
Speaker A:I just couldn't understand.
Speaker A:That's just me, though, having to understand what he's saying half the time.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker D:Yeah, I had the subtitles on.
Speaker D:I'm Mostly the hard of hearing loud music all my life.
Speaker D:So subtitles are a game changer for me.
Speaker D:I love it.
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I like.
Speaker A:I mean, I liked him.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, they have one of my favorite exchanges in the whole movie.
Speaker C:Like his.
Speaker C:His whole thing about everything's got to be green.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And then so he gives this whole speech to Briswells about, you know, you had no pop, no fire, you got to have me.
Speaker C:Green grabs him, slams him up against the wall and says, look, tomorrow, all this stuff.
Speaker C:Green, super green.
Speaker B:Yeah, I enjoyed him.
Speaker B:And their exchanges were.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, it's very good to kind of point out a thing.
Speaker D:I don't know if you're going back to it, but.
Speaker D:Chris Tucker.
Speaker D:Chris Tucker, Is that who it was?
Speaker D:Yeah, Chris, right, Chris Tucker and the guy that plays the president, Tom Lister.
Speaker D:Tiny Zeus Lister.
Speaker B:Yeah, they were.
Speaker D:They were in Friday together.
Speaker D:And Brian James, who plays the Colonel, something General.
Speaker D:Colonel was.
Speaker D:And Bruce Willis were in a movie together back in the 80s, I believe it was.
Speaker D:I don't remember.
Speaker D:Good Lord.
Speaker D:Anyway, yeah, several of these characters have been in movies together and Bruce Willis and Gary Oldman are in this movie together, yet have no scenes together whatsoever.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:The good guy and the bad guy never meet.
Speaker D:Well, I.
Speaker D:I was watching Striking Distance.
Speaker D:That's what I was thinking.
Speaker D:Bruce Willis and Brian.
Speaker D:Brian James were in Striking Distance.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Well, we watched it and then I watched it to make my notes with the fact track on, like on the DVD has a fact track and there's literally a scene that.
Speaker B:And one of the facts is this is the only time that all the main characters are on screen together.
Speaker B:You know, I can't remember who all was there, but.
Speaker B:But yeah, there's only like one scene where all the principles are together in one.
Speaker B:Yeah, one scene or whatever.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:It's just.
Speaker D:It's wild how such a movie with a lot of big name actors still currently, even back then they were big name, but now they're still big name.
Speaker D:They were in a movie together, but no scenes.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker D:That's unheard of a lot of times.
Speaker C:And then only had one other thing I thought was interesting as far as the, I guess, facts.
Speaker C:So Besson hired this comic book artist named Jean Gerard.
Speaker C:I'm probably butchering his name.
Speaker C:Anyways, he was hired for production design because he had a comic that Besson liked a lot as far as the style of the movie.
Speaker C:So he brought this guy on to help him, you know, hey, man, I really like your style and Then that guy ended up suing Besson later on for plagiarism.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Now, he didn't win, but I just thought that was interesting.
Speaker C:Like, so you're going to work on a project and then decide what after it's a big hit.
Speaker C:Hey, you stole my stuff.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Money talks, right?
Speaker C:That's just ridiculous to me.
Speaker D:Like, just, like, if this podcast takes off and, you know, hits a billion views, we're probably going to all want a cut of that, right?
Speaker D:No.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:That's a good problem to have.
Speaker C:I'm just sending all you guys chocolates that are laced with.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It starts off with this prologue.
Speaker B:How did y' all feel about the prologue?
Speaker C:There was a lot of interesting things.
Speaker C:I've got, I guess, some notes on it.
Speaker C:It was kind of long, I think I felt like they did a good job fairly of explaining it.
Speaker C:Yeah, they had to set up what's going on.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Just sat on a couple of notes I had.
Speaker C:So the professor studying the hieroglyphs.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And kind of explaining the story in the Fifth Element and kind of what's going on.
Speaker C:And then Luke Perry, I guess, is his assistant and he's.
Speaker C:So this poor kid is holding up this Aziz pan.
Speaker C:Aziz slight.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:And like Luke Perry, part of his job is to count how many times.
Speaker C:So you know how many times he has to yell at Aziz for light.
Speaker C:So, like, when they get to 10 or whatever the number is, I don't like what happens because at one scene, this poor kid's nose is bleeding.
Speaker C:So are they beating this kid because, you know, a Z slight, and then that's 10 times.
Speaker C:Get him in you.
Speaker D:Yeah, slam his head.
Speaker C:I felt bad for this kid, but I.
Speaker B:This too.
Speaker C:Anyhow.
Speaker B:Well, any.
Speaker B:Like, science fiction, you have to.
Speaker B:It's world building, right.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, you don't have to.
Speaker B:This is not brought out in the movie.
Speaker B:And this is one of those things you'd never know unless, like the fact track or whatever.
Speaker B:Monda Shawins were the aliens, you know, the.
Speaker B:The defender aliens, you know, they're apparently, the more spikes that they have is the higher rank.
Speaker B:They are.
Speaker B:That's one of the nice.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So the fact track, a lot of, you know, stuff like that.
Speaker B:But choices are made that, you know, scenic, you know, that you'll never know about on screen or whatever.
Speaker B:I just thought, you know, they're doing stuff that you'll never know about.
Speaker B:But, yeah, I thought that was interesting, that the more spikes the mondashal ones have, the higher rank they are, I think, the most The.
Speaker B:The principal piece of information that we got is that every 5,000 years, this evil appears or whatever.
Speaker B:Is that.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:It lays out the entire story of four stones.
Speaker D:Fifth Element Evil.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So you know what's coming.
Speaker C:Gather the four stones and.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Have the fulfillment.
Speaker C:So you watched it with.
Speaker C:It was interesting.
Speaker C:I watched it twice, and I don't know.
Speaker C:The line is kind of hard to understand.
Speaker C:So I was gonna ask you.
Speaker C:You watch it with subtitles, to see if I got the line right.
Speaker C:At one point, the professor guy, he's.
Speaker C:They're zooming in on the Fifth Element hieroglyph.
Speaker C:He says, this man, this perfect being, I honestly care not.
Speaker C:Is that what he says?
Speaker C:I honestly care not.
Speaker C:Because I thought that was interesting.
Speaker C:Because they make a lot of references in the movie of the per.
Speaker C:Being.
Speaker C:Oh, it's a woman.
Speaker C:Like, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They're very surprised that it's a woman.
Speaker C:Woman.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So I guess I thought that was interesting at the professor, if that's his line.
Speaker C:I care not.
Speaker C:Like, I feel like that's what I heard.
Speaker C:But I don't know.
Speaker D:I don't recall.
Speaker C:I didn't go back and watch it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker D:But, yeah, that would make sense of what that would be saying.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Because.
Speaker D:Yeah, that is the big surprise, that it's Mila Jovovich.
Speaker C:There's a woman.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:And perfect.
Speaker D:The perfect.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:The perfect is not a man.
Speaker C:It's a woman.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, she.
Speaker C:She's one.
Speaker C:I noticed that.
Speaker C:Did you?
Speaker C:Yeah, I like that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They really do make them perfect.
Speaker B:You know, she's right.
Speaker B:Changing her clothes or whatever.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So they set up the 5,000 years, and the aliens say that, you know, that they're not.
Speaker C:War's coming, they're not safe.
Speaker C:The stones are not safe on Earth.
Speaker C:So they take the stones.
Speaker C:That's the gentleman.
Speaker C:Say, we will return in 3, 300 years when evil comes.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:The one thing that I didn't get as a kid on the first viewing is he was talking about World War II coming.
Speaker D:Is that right?
Speaker D:Because what year was this?
Speaker C:1914.
Speaker C:14.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So that one.
Speaker B:So the start of World War I.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:So war is coming.
Speaker D:I.
Speaker D:I never caught that.
Speaker D:I.
Speaker D:I was still in this.
Speaker D:Oh, it's a space drama.
Speaker D:There's a space.
Speaker C:I didn't get it until just now.
Speaker B:I thought.
Speaker B:I thought it was in war with aliens and Earth, but they meant World War II.
Speaker D:They meant world.
Speaker D:World War is coming.
Speaker D:It's in Egypt.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:I was like, okay.
Speaker D:So they need to take the stones off before.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Rommel and all.
Speaker C:I didn't catch that.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker C:No, I was.
Speaker B:I still.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:Until he said it just then.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:Today.
Speaker C:Years old when I learned that.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:You're welcome.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Nice, James.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:So war is coming.
Speaker D:Monachiwans need to take it off of Earth so nobody gets a hold of it.
Speaker D: years when the: Speaker D:So.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:But it doesn't explain in the thing.
Speaker D:I would like to see what happened 5,000 years ago.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Like, what was that war like?
Speaker D:Was it similar?
Speaker D:Did they.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Did they.
Speaker C:Yeah, they always.
Speaker C:Yeah, they always defeated it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker B:Yeah, maybe.
Speaker D:You know, in 5, 000 years, this one anomaly happens.
Speaker D:It's only ever gonna happen once.
Speaker D:Is.
Speaker D:Is that what they were meaning?
Speaker C:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I wasn't clear on it because.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because he said every 5,000 years.
Speaker B:Oh, I got some time then.
Speaker B:Or whatever, you know.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:300 years later or whatever.
Speaker C:Which is a lot of references to time.
Speaker C:And time is not important, only life.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:I mean, there's a lot of.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I just thought that was.
Speaker D:We can get into that a little bit later.
Speaker D:About how Luc Besson illustrates that with.
Speaker D:You have 10 seconds.
Speaker D:He knocks it out in 10 seconds.
Speaker D:It's very.
Speaker D:And then the countdowns.
Speaker B:It was the setup, opening image, whatever.
Speaker B:Obviously, we're setting up Bruce Willis as a down and outer.
Speaker B:It starts off, you know, them, the government trying to destroy the thing and only making it stronger.
Speaker B:And nobody wanting to pay attention to the priest.
Speaker B:But the priest is.
Speaker B:Vito has got the answer.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And he has a line about violence begets violence.
Speaker C:And then we see that visually.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:They fire all these missiles at this cosmic entity, and it just gets bigger.
Speaker D:Vito Cornelius is a direct descendant to the same priest.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because they tell the priest, you know, pass on what you know.
Speaker B:You get the idea that this is a lineage.
Speaker D:So Cornelius standing in front of the president going, hey, this big thing that just appeared out of nowhere is pure evil.
Speaker D:It's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So he's well versed in.
Speaker C:We don't have time for that.
Speaker C:Right, Right.
Speaker D:Blow it up.
Speaker D:Ask questions later.
Speaker D:Good old fashioned American way.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Which I feel like there's a lot.
Speaker C:And we can get into this a little bit later, but I feel like there's a lot of.
Speaker C:In this movie trying to solve problems with violence.
Speaker C:Like, it's almost like an anti Violent film, right?
Speaker C:I mean.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, yeah.
Speaker B:Cuz the.
Speaker C:I guess I was being half committal.
Speaker C:They're saying almost.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, towards the end, in her all is lost.
Speaker C:What is the point?
Speaker C:Yeah, what is the point?
Speaker B:What is the point in saving.
Speaker B:You know, because she.
Speaker B:Throughout the movie.
Speaker B:I didn't pick this up immediately until the second time I saw it, but she's going through human history, I guess alphabetically.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And she, she's at the V's at one point.
Speaker C:A lot of good words in V.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And then she gets to W.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I thought the scene worked like she was crying when she learned about war.
Speaker B:And I mean, I thought she sold it.
Speaker B:I thought the scene was written.
Speaker B:I, I felt myself, you know, emotionally in that mood in that scene.
Speaker D:I just now thought of this.
Speaker D:That's very.
Speaker D:Age of Ultron, Avengers, downloading the Internet, getting to war and being like, oh, we can't.
Speaker D:We can't trust them with life.
Speaker D:They'll just take it away.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:That's her whole argument, you know, at the end and something.
Speaker B:I thought they, you know, I thought, I thought it was set up well because in the beginning, Bruce, Dallas Corbin.
Speaker B:Dallas is down and out.
Speaker B:And he actually says at one point that he's.
Speaker B:That he's.
Speaker B:He says he's looking for a woman.
Speaker B:The perfect.
Speaker B:I'm looking for my perfect woman.
Speaker C:Yeah, I have the line I've written.
Speaker C:He says, because he's on the phone with the, with the guy with fingers.
Speaker B:Yeah, his cabbage.
Speaker C:He's like, get over your ex.
Speaker C:W for whatever.
Speaker C:There's a million women.
Speaker C:He goes, I don't want a million women.
Speaker C:I just want one.
Speaker C:The perfect one.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Which is a good setup because the perfect woman shows up.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Literally perfect.
Speaker C:And falls into his lap like an angel.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:So, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So I thought all that was actually done pretty well.
Speaker B:I think the, you know, Bruce.
Speaker B:I like the whole gag back and forth of he doesn't like to get messages.
Speaker B:You know, it'd be important, you know.
Speaker C:But the last one I got.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:With the eating his lunch and then the general.
Speaker B:I wrote his name down here somewhere, but the, the state Stoddard is the first general.
Speaker B:And then the other general.
Speaker B:I guess we'll get to him.
Speaker B:I can't remember.
Speaker D:Brian.
Speaker D:Brian Fella.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:He plays General.
Speaker D:General Monroe.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:So he.
Speaker B:I thought, I like General Monroe.
Speaker B:I liked his interactions with her especially.
Speaker B:That was good.
Speaker B:I thought that was really good.
Speaker B:And, and they, you know, they fixed the contest, it could be important and they, you know.
Speaker B:But I thought all those were very, very slick exchanges.
Speaker C:I'd love to help Major, but where can we go?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Auto wash.
Speaker D:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:Auto wash.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Novic.
Speaker B:She was really.
Speaker B:I, you know I liked her performance a lot.
Speaker B:Multipass.
Speaker B:The whole multi pass thing I loved.
Speaker C:She knows it's a multi pass.
Speaker B:Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:But you have on the even the back to the violence thing.
Speaker C:So he's Bruce Willis character is a like former, former major special ops or whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:We learned that he turned his way turned away from that and now he's a cab driver.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:So he retired six months ago.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:But even, but we don't really know why.
Speaker C:But like I mean there's one hint to it but if he's telling the truth I guess in the scene.
Speaker C:But again here's a guy who is capable of violence but is currently living a life that's not violent.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And not using.
Speaker C:You know this dude can take care of himself.
Speaker C:They show with the mugging.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:I mean I'll hold on to this for a while.
Speaker C:It takes the, you know easily disarms the guy and clearly that's happened a lot I feel like.
Speaker C:Because he's got a whole stack of guns.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, that whole knock away on the door and give me the guy, give me the cash.
Speaker B:I, I, I remember loving that and I watched it.
Speaker B:I was like I love that guy.
Speaker D:Nice hat.
Speaker B:You can almost.
Speaker B:It almost looks like Bruce Willis is about to lose it.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker B:Nice hat.
Speaker C:Very nice hat.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker B:I love that whole exchange man.
Speaker C:And later on he makes reference about his marriage when Lilu.
Speaker C:He's trying to let Lilou in and then Major Monroe or whatever and the other guys are there.
Speaker C:He's.
Speaker C:No, no, this is my, my new girlfriend.
Speaker C:She, she knows it.
Speaker C:You know military.
Speaker C:My last marriage wherever she can't see you guys.
Speaker C:So just I wonder how much truth there is to that.
Speaker C:Like why did he leave like you know, did military quote violence ruin his last marriage?
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I guess I, I guess I didn't pick up on the fact that he was married.
Speaker B:I missed, I missed that.
Speaker D:I guess he was divorced.
Speaker D:His ex wife ran off with his lawyer.
Speaker B:That was.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because he, which that doesn't play into the military ruining it.
Speaker C:But yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:I had to write down the names of the aliens.
Speaker B:So the, yeah.
Speaker B:So they're trying to kill the, the bad guy.
Speaker B:The mangalore show up.
Speaker B:But then the oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker B:The Manda Shawins show up and the Mangaloreans are the ones that wipe them out.
Speaker B:Wipe them out.
Speaker B:They are recovering just a little bit of the DNA of Lilu or whatever.
Speaker B:Something that I thought was.
Speaker B:And this.
Speaker B:This is a testament to both Milla Jovic and Lucasan.
Speaker B:Lucasan completely created that foreign language that she's talking about and made her memorize it.
Speaker C:Yeah, Yeah, I had that note and then I didn't.
Speaker C:I didn't write it down for some reason.
Speaker C:Yeah, they.
Speaker C:They would write letters back and forth in this language.
Speaker C:They'd have conversations to make sure that you.
Speaker C:You know, she.
Speaker B:She rattles that.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, it's.
Speaker C:Like it's a real language.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:What's your name?
Speaker C:Short.
Speaker C:Short.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:What's.
Speaker C:Corbin Dallas.
Speaker C:Short.
Speaker C:You know, that's good.
Speaker C:They're.
Speaker C:In exchange just because I really like Bruce Willis on this movie.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker B:Every exchange.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:The writing is good.
Speaker B:And the hands of the director are competent.
Speaker B:I mean, when you have that combination, it.
Speaker B:It can be.
Speaker C:Even when he.
Speaker C:When he first meets her, like you.
Speaker C:I feel like you almost fall in love with her when.
Speaker C:As Corbin does.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Just like even when, you know, she crashes in the back and he's like, any survivors back there?
Speaker C:He's looking back there.
Speaker C:And then she rattles off all this, you know, this alien language and all you.
Speaker C:Boom.
Speaker C:I understand that.
Speaker C:Boom.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's really good.
Speaker B:No, it was all very endearing and clever and.
Speaker C:Remember me.
Speaker C:Remember.
Speaker C:Boom.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker B:Yeah, we learn of Zorn here.
Speaker B:Zorg.
Speaker C:Zorg.
Speaker B:I wrote Zorn down half the time, but it's Zorg.
Speaker C:Zorg, like Toy Story 2.
Speaker B:That he is behind this and actually is working for.
Speaker B:They call him Mr.
Speaker B:Shadow at one time.
Speaker B:I guess that's what Zorg was referring to.
Speaker B:Him, the evil as planet is Mr.
Speaker C:Shadow, right?
Speaker D:Yeah, he's the.
Speaker D:The planet is the incarnate of Mr.
Speaker D:Shadow.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So because Zorg seems like the ultimate baddie, but then you realize the Shadow guy is holding the leash or whatever.
Speaker B:Leeloo escapes and.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And literally, you know, talk about the catalyst or whatever.
Speaker B:Literally drops through the roof.
Speaker C:It's a good catalyst for sure.
Speaker C:Especially.
Speaker C:And they set that up.
Speaker C:Well, with how many points he's got on his license.
Speaker C:Yeah, at least 50.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You're a bad player.
Speaker C:When he gets in, it's five.
Speaker D:When you said he'd only been.
Speaker D:He'd been out of the military six months.
Speaker D:So he has Almost no points on his license in six months.
Speaker B:Yes, I know.
Speaker B:I had an accident.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Thank you very much.
Speaker D:So he's not a great captain.
Speaker C:Not a great.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker A:My goodness.
Speaker A:How do you even get around on those?
Speaker C:Yeah, no, I wouldn't want to drive in that.
Speaker C:I mean, he almost gets hit just pulling out, and then I feel like, whose fault would that have been?
Speaker C:I don't know what the rules are, you know.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I thought.
Speaker B:Because he.
Speaker B:Okay, so you have her dropping in, literally catalyst or whatever.
Speaker B:And then obviously he is being asked to go on this adventure, and she, you know, help me.
Speaker C:She's trying to help.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Which I, you know.
Speaker B:You know, it's very definitely emotional, heartstring pull.
Speaker B:Like, this is somebody.
Speaker B:It felt like almost like a child, you know?
Speaker C:Well, it's funny you say that.
Speaker C:Like, I like it a lot, but I feel like he borrowed it from his own work.
Speaker C:Professional.
Speaker C:And maybe just the way he wants his beats or whatever.
Speaker C:And correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I remember this in the.
Speaker C:In the professional.
Speaker C:Natalie Portman goes to.
Speaker B:Knocks on Leon's door, knocks on his.
Speaker C:Door, and she's crying.
Speaker C:And I don't know if she says the words, please help or anything like that, but it's very much the same beat.
Speaker C:Like, that's his break into.
Speaker C:Is letting her in.
Speaker C:Yes, yes.
Speaker C:And so that's his call.
Speaker C:Like, that's.
Speaker C:So they're very similar beats, which is fine, but just.
Speaker C:Yeah, I just thought they were.
Speaker C:And I like it.
Speaker C:I mean, the performances in both of them are fine.
Speaker C:It just.
Speaker C:They are very similar beats to me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think I seem to remember Natalie Portman at that point, like, knocking and, like, standing there hoping to God because she's got to convince the bad guys that that's.
Speaker B:That's really.
Speaker B:So she died where she really lives there.
Speaker B:I don't think she asked for help.
Speaker B:I think she's standing there waiting.
Speaker C:Waiting for him to let her in.
Speaker C:Yeah, she lives there.
Speaker C:Yeah, maybe.
Speaker C:But is she crying and stuff?
Speaker C:Like, it's.
Speaker D:They're watching the apartment at that time.
Speaker D:Her apartment.
Speaker D:She's walking past it.
Speaker C:Like I said, they work fine.
Speaker C:Like, I wouldn't want to try and take it away from it.
Speaker C:It just.
Speaker C:They.
Speaker C:It reminded me of that very much.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Bruce is already sort of.
Speaker B:We already see that he's kind of struck with her.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:Yeah, but he refuses.
Speaker C:And a good.
Speaker C:So many points on my license.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:This, this.
Speaker B:This end of his life.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I Think the decision is really a hard one, because obviously, ultimately he's like.
Speaker B:He does it for love or whatever, you know, but, yeah, I mean, it is the debate scene.
Speaker B:It's a very quick debate scene.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But, But.
Speaker C:But it's there.
Speaker C:Yeah, there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's so stupid.
Speaker C:And he takes off.
Speaker C:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So then we're into the fun games, whatever.
Speaker D:And that's when they.
Speaker D:The fun and game starts with him delivering him to Father Cornelius.
Speaker D:Or was there another scene in between?
Speaker B:Well, there's a.
Speaker B:I think.
Speaker D:Yeah, of course.
Speaker D:Car chase.
Speaker B:They go into the fog, you know.
Speaker C:I mean, like, what does that mean in this world?
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker D:McDonald still exists.
Speaker C:That's great.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:There's a lot of.
Speaker B:Not a lot, but there's at least two or three times that I can remember, like when.
Speaker B:When the cops eat his McDonald's and Bruce Willis comes Bondies.
Speaker B:You know, his reaction is, whoa.
Speaker B:You know, like, there's this.
Speaker B:There's this dead.
Speaker B:Because the assistant scientist, when the president comes at the end and he's.
Speaker B:He's like, oh, they're.
Speaker B:You know, that guy, he has one of those beats, too.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But, yeah, so several characters have this beat of just deadpan.
Speaker B:Whoa.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:Stylistic choice.
Speaker B:But I.
Speaker B:I enjoyed that a couple times.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The car chase, pursuit by the cops.
Speaker B:I have down Bruce being Bruce because he's got a lot of cool lines.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's in his form, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:No, he obviously is an actor.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And that's the whole point.
Speaker C:But he.
Speaker C:He seems at home, you know, this guy who's in Die Hard and especially watching them and all these.
Speaker C:Maybe that's why it occurred to me, like, watching these four movies that are, you know, very drastically different, he seemed at home in this futuristic world, being a cab driver.
Speaker C:Like, very believable that this is his world and this is where he's at.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They go to.
Speaker B:To the apartment and then, of course, the.
Speaker B:The priest doesn't know who she is at first and realizes and.
Speaker B:And Corbin is immediately shuffled out the door.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I mean, he's, you know, just gone.
Speaker C:I feel like that goes into the.
Speaker C:The whole violence thing.
Speaker C:Like, here's a guy who, like, he's not needed his way of dealing with things.
Speaker C:Like, he's.
Speaker C:He's not.
Speaker C:I mean, I don't know how much that guy could have known about him, but, like, we got this.
Speaker C:We got this handled.
Speaker C:We don't need you.
Speaker C:Corbin.
Speaker D:He's Been preparing his whole life.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:I've been preparing my whole life because like later on when they meet back up and he tells Corbin, you know, we're gonna save the world.
Speaker C:And then Corbin's like, you're gonna save the world?
Speaker C:Like, really?
Speaker B:Yeah, I've been doing this, you know, whatever a certain way.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:But I like how when he shows up the door, he thinks I need a priest.
Speaker C:And they.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:I didn't catch his line.
Speaker C:I've seen that scene twice now.
Speaker D:But weddings are down the hall.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker C:Weddings are down the hall.
Speaker C:Yeah, Like, I got the gist of it.
Speaker B:That he a cynical.
Speaker D:And then it pay off at the end when Zorg's guy.
Speaker D:Zorg's guys come down the hall.
Speaker D:Weddings.
Speaker D:Not exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Nice.
Speaker C:Yeah, so that was good.
Speaker C:Kicks the door in and again.
Speaker C:Maybe that's what.
Speaker C:Again, like kicking the door and it's kind of, you know, it's violent, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah, I had.
Speaker B:I had that.
Speaker B:He actually drove his cab into the second act at 36 minutes, he floors the cab into the second app, the cops in pursuit.
Speaker B:So as soon as Bruce Willis decides he's going to help her, he takes off in the cab.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it's not necessarily door, but I guess I sort of pegged that as.
Speaker B:Okay, if you're.
Speaker B:If you're talking it physically.
Speaker B:He physically drives from the first act to the second act after making that decision or whatever.
Speaker D:That's a cool.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then.
Speaker C:And then starts going down against the flow of traffic.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Into the.
Speaker B:Into the fog.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Into the new world.
Speaker B:Right, right, right, right.
Speaker C:And then there's Dory with the priest.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:When he shows up there, I mean.
Speaker B:A little bit later, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:He definitely knocks on the door.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:The second act.
Speaker C:Right, yeah.
Speaker B:And in case we didn't like.
Speaker B:So there's this whole thing where Bruce Corbin tries to kiss her and, you.
Speaker C:Know, that's very good.
Speaker B:Never without my permission.
Speaker C:I shouldn't have done that.
Speaker C:Definitely.
Speaker D:What does this mean?
Speaker D:Never without my permission.
Speaker B:I'd love that.
Speaker B:So back home, in case, where there was no doubt, there's, you know, discussion with what, fingers or whatever.
Speaker B:Being hustled by his boss.
Speaker B:Where's my cab?
Speaker B:But Bruce quite clearly has made the decision that he has found, you know, his perfect woman.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because he's talking founder and lost her.
Speaker C:In my opinion, at this point, because as soon as he runs back home.
Speaker C:I shouldn't have kissed her.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Now he's explained to his boss, you know who.
Speaker C:I think it's kind of cool.
Speaker C:Like most bosses are yelling and you're fired, moving all this stuff.
Speaker C:And this boss seems like he's genuinely understanding and just like wants to hear, oh, all right, man.
Speaker C:I don't know if he says it, but it seems like, all right, man, I've been there.
Speaker C:I've had.
Speaker C:Seen that girl.
Speaker C:Like, I don't think he never says that, but it, it clearly the way Bruce Willis lays down on the bed, they can talk about the girl to his boss.
Speaker C:That it, it seems like his, you know, I mean, like his boss is going to be understanding of that, you know.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Because he was Bruce Willis's character.
Speaker D:Corbin Dallas was in charge of his boss in the military.
Speaker D:Is that right?
Speaker D:They work.
Speaker C:Is that what it was?
Speaker C:Okay, I guess I missed some of that.
Speaker D:So I now, now I think that dynamic is changed.
Speaker D:So they do have a relationship.
Speaker C:He calls him Major.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:He refers to Corbin as Major.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:All right, I missed that then.
Speaker C:Nice.
Speaker C:I guess some of the other fun games too.
Speaker C:We were introduced to Zorg also in this point where he's, you know, selling the guns to the Mangalores.
Speaker C:And Yeah, it's a good.
Speaker D:That was always my favorite scene with all the tricks and little cool things that those guns had.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker D:It was very cool.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:My favorite part of that, you know.
Speaker B:Now a real killer would have asked about that little red button on the bottom of the gun.
Speaker B:You know, a real died in the wool killer.
Speaker C:And it's cool because it cuts to the Mangalores and the guys in the background, they shoot an ad on their other.
Speaker C:Their buddies or whatever.
Speaker C:Like they're almost messing with the gun.
Speaker C:What does this button do?
Speaker C:And then, yeah, the button that again.
Speaker D:Is a call back to the Professional of Gary Oldman walking down the hall talking to his second in command while.
Speaker C:There'S an explosion behind him.
Speaker D:While there's something going on behind him.
Speaker D:Like he.
Speaker D:He has that, like a methodical blah, blah, blah.
Speaker D:He has a similar thing in the Professional.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker C:They have the same fate too.
Speaker C:They both get blown.
Speaker C:He gets blown up in both movies.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And here we learn, well, obviously Gary Oldman gets the case.
Speaker B:The case is empty.
Speaker B:And we learn empty.
Speaker C:The opposite of pool.
Speaker D:You can count that editing.
Speaker D:That editing was beautiful.
Speaker B:Back and forth similar.
Speaker C:Explaining the two conversations.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:It's like he opens the case and then closes it and then she's like, empty.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker D:She laughs and laughs and laughs and then empty.
Speaker D:The Opposite of full.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker D:Because talking to each other.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The father asks her, what do you mean, empty?
Speaker C:And then.
Speaker C:Okay, he answers.
Speaker C:Zorg answers, empty.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So like in the.
Speaker C:Just the previous movie we were talking about with Edwards, he would have had both those conversations play out in their fullness back to back, instead of cutting between the two.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:Lucasant did it the right way.
Speaker B:No, no, absolutely.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:It was funny.
Speaker D:It was upbeat.
Speaker D:It kept the energy going.
Speaker D:I really liked it.
Speaker C:He has a.
Speaker C:Zorg has a lot of good lines in there, but at one point, he's like.
Speaker C:I think he's talking to the mandalores, and he's like, why?
Speaker C:What's wrong with me?
Speaker C:Or whatever.
Speaker C:I think that's.
Speaker C:He's talking to the mandalores.
Speaker C:It might have been the father, but I think.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I thought he was talking to the mandalores at just one point.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I wouldn't give this to you.
Speaker C:He's like, why?
Speaker C:What's wrong with me?
Speaker C:Just.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker B:Just, you know, any.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Zorg, Gary Oldman, anytime.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I just love everything.
Speaker C:And there's this reoccurring deal with him saying, I know.
Speaker C:Like, you're a monster.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Then later on, when his right hand man fails him, he's like, this never happened again.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:And then he blows him up.
Speaker C:When he comes, when Zorg shows up to the hotel to finally, you know, stop asking somebody else to do it, I'm gonna go get the stones myself.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:I think when he lands, the hotel staff tells him that, you know, we're evacuating.
Speaker C:There's a bomb, and he shoots them all up and goes.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:Just.
Speaker C:It's this callback of, you know, I know.
Speaker C:And then disappointed.
Speaker C:Like, he says a lot, you know, about being disappointed.
Speaker C:I'm so disappointed.
Speaker B:Anyhow, that's good stuff.
Speaker C:I like the idea.
Speaker C:Just a little gag.
Speaker C:The Chinese food right at your door.
Speaker C:Like, he's getting, like, legit Chinese food, but he didn't have to leave his apartment.
Speaker C:Like, in this.
Speaker C:In this world.
Speaker C:That's kind of cool.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The boat that comes up, they can actually, like.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:So the Fifth Element, they had the doordash idea before Doordash.
Speaker C:Yeah, they did.
Speaker D:Restaurant dash.
Speaker C:Just restaurant dash.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:That'd be sweet if they just pulled right up, made it.
Speaker C:Yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker C:Like, it's gotta get Hibachi right there without having to or whatever he wanted, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, it's good work.
Speaker B:World building, like, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And clearly the rapport he had, he's ordered from this guy before.
Speaker D:And the fact that it was an ancient, I'm gonna guess Chinese vessel.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:But it was a floating instance.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was good.
Speaker D:So second act fun and games or we're still in fun and games.
Speaker C:Yeah, I think everything we're saying was fun.
Speaker C:Again, what do you have as the midpoint, Phil?
Speaker B:I have down as a midpoint false victory.
Speaker B:I have them arriving at Floss in Paradise as the midpoint false victory.
Speaker B:Like they get to.
Speaker B:Because there's this whole sequence which I thought was also.
Speaker B:Was done very well, about different people trying to impersonate Corbin Dallas.
Speaker B:Because all the parties, how they get there, I thought was done well.
Speaker B:Every party is interested for their own reasons.
Speaker B:To impersonate Corbin Dallas and to get to Lost in Paradise.
Speaker B:And Corbin is able to get there and be himself and get on.
Speaker B:And get on board.
Speaker B:But so as a.
Speaker B:As a.
Speaker B:I call it a false victory because they get there, but there's still.
Speaker B:They still have not achieved their purpose.
Speaker B:So there is, I guess, a victory, but there's going to be some setbacks coming pretty soon.
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:No, it's interesting.
Speaker C:I had it in the same area, but like him, I guess, you know, winning the tickets to Floss in Paradise is his false victory because it's her.
Speaker C:His false victory is her coming back into his life because he thought he'd lost her.
Speaker C:Yeah, Right.
Speaker C:And so her coming back into his life, but he still can't be with her because we gotta go save the world.
Speaker C:And there's still Mandalores and Zorg out there.
Speaker C:There's all these bad guys that are about to close in.
Speaker C:Yeah, Right.
Speaker C:So it's like.
Speaker C:Because, I mean, he's his goal.
Speaker C:He says, I'm not looking.
Speaker C:I'm looking for the perfect woman.
Speaker C:Like, that's his goal, Right.
Speaker C:Not to be a good cab driver, to save the world.
Speaker C:He wants to be with somebody.
Speaker C:He's alone.
Speaker C:He wakes up alone.
Speaker C:I think I.
Speaker C:We talked about that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Or I didn't get to say that in the opening image.
Speaker C:His opening image is waking up alone.
Speaker C:Because his closing image is being with her, not alone.
Speaker C:It's him and his cat and the little.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:The love of his life, in a way, is a cat.
Speaker C:I was gonna say the only woman in his life.
Speaker C:But his mom gets lots of phone calls from her, but anyhow.
Speaker D:And she's stranded on the moon.
Speaker B:I didn't know she was standing on the Moon.
Speaker D:I'd leave her on the moon, too.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Anyhow, so I think that's the.
Speaker C:Her coming back into his life because.
Speaker B:They orchestrated the contest.
Speaker B:Like, he didn't technically win.
Speaker B:Like, they.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Fixed it where he would have to because apparently it's very hard to get to floss impaired.
Speaker B:All the.
Speaker B:Everything is booked.
Speaker B:Like nobody could get there.
Speaker B:That's why everybody needs to impersonate.
Speaker D:It's like the super bowl on steroids.
Speaker C:With security, with the diva performance.
Speaker B:I mean, like, he was.
Speaker B:So I think you're probably right, but I think he was.
Speaker B:He was going to get those tickets whether he wanted them or not.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I just thought, like, once he finally got to Floss in paradise, it was after all of this conflict and people try and take him out and impersonate him and.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:And now he's there.
Speaker D:Now he's.
Speaker D:He's lowering himself into the sleep chamber.
Speaker D:He's.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:But he didn't get to be with her.
Speaker C:I feel like it's in his run, because even when he's.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's the outward, inward wait.
Speaker C:And then he's there.
Speaker C:She knocks him out.
Speaker C:He can't even.
Speaker C:He finally got a moment alone with her, and he gets knocked out.
Speaker C:You know, I mean, with the.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:It's like a false defeat for her, but a false victory for.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:Because it's two tracks.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:His emotional one, which is her.
Speaker B:Like, if he.
Speaker B:If he saves the world, he gets her.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:You know, the two tracks have to.
Speaker B:Have to join.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I think.
Speaker B:I think maybe the emotional midpoint, I would agree, is.
Speaker C:Is her back in his life because he thought he lost.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Getting the tickets and.
Speaker B:But I feel like the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:Our story.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The goal.
Speaker B:Because of all the struggle he had just to get there.
Speaker B:Now he's there.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:And now.
Speaker D:Now that kind of makes sense, is when they wake up, she's gone out of the little, little thing.
Speaker D:He has to find her.
Speaker D:And the first thing he basically says to her is, this isn't a vacation.
Speaker D:We're here to save the world, essentially.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:That might have been the words he.
Speaker D:When he was sliding in that sleep chamber.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:Now we're alone.
Speaker D:We gotta save the world.
Speaker D:And I don't think.
Speaker D:I don't think he understood what she was.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:That's when she said, no, I protect you.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm the fifth element.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And he's like, no, first time I'm talking to you.
Speaker D:Let Me.
Speaker D:Let me do this.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:She ends up kicking all the ass.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Because he's still trying to solve it his.
Speaker C:His way.
Speaker D:His way, right.
Speaker C:Yeah, his way with violence and kicking indoors and shooting people up or whatever.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And even I thought it was interesting that the father has to resort to violence to.
Speaker C:To get the tickets.
Speaker B:Like, he's like, please forgive me.
Speaker C:And then she tries to braid him and say something.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm not proud of what I did, you know.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:No, I.
Speaker B:I thought the.
Speaker B:I thought that was played well or whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So midpoint is.
Speaker B:Is.
Speaker B:I think we're hitting both pretty close.
Speaker B:It's the point at which they're getting to Flosston or have gotten the tickets.
Speaker B:That's that part of the story, I think is.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Is in there.
Speaker C:And then we meet Ruby Rod.
Speaker C:It reminds me of Cisco.
Speaker C:Remember Cisco?
Speaker C:Very much reminds me of.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, the song.
Speaker C:Song, right.
Speaker C:Reminds me of Cisco way before Cisco, I guess.
Speaker B:Oh, who is this?
Speaker B:Go.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker D:Yeah, don't worry about it.
Speaker C:Just an artist.
Speaker C:But yeah, just.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:James said yes and so that's all I needed.
Speaker C:One person to go.
Speaker C:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker C:So, yeah.
Speaker C:Bad guys close in.
Speaker C:So we've got the police coming to Corbin's apartment.
Speaker C:Corbin has Lilu and father Cornelius and then the auto wash thing we talked about earlier.
Speaker C:And I guess for me, because mine's earlier, it's just her coming back into his life.
Speaker C:So I guess these might not be under your.
Speaker B:They're probably still under my Fun and games.
Speaker C:Under your fun and games.
Speaker B:Because the bad guys close in.
Speaker B:I have.
Speaker B:They get to Flosston and the Mangalore and Zorg by proxy.
Speaker B:But I guess Zorg does show up.
Speaker B:Are waiting there.
Speaker B:Like they're.
Speaker B:They're very quickly on the scene.
Speaker D:Just.
Speaker D:Just to be clear real quick though, the Mangalores, after the gun scene, Zorg pissed them off.
Speaker D:So now Zorg is trying to get the stones.
Speaker D:The Mangalore are trying to get the stones.
Speaker D:Zorg to hold them captive.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker D:Bruce Willis is trying to get the stones to save the world.
Speaker D:Several people are after this thing.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:The Megalores and Zorg are not working together anymore after.
Speaker C:So now.
Speaker D:Okay, now on Lost in Paradise, you've three groups.
Speaker B:Yeah, there's at least three because they're all trying to.
Speaker B:Which I.
Speaker B:That whole sequence of getting.
Speaker B:Trying to impersonate styles, I thought was done, done, done.
Speaker B:Well, I did like the.
Speaker B:The mashup, so to speak, of the fight scene with Lilu while the Opera singer was singing.
Speaker D:Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool soundtrack.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And there's a good.
Speaker C:Just.
Speaker C:I like the transition there.
Speaker C:Like, when she's done singing, they're all standing up or whatever, clapping.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And I think it's.
Speaker C:I think it's Ruby Rod.
Speaker C:He might not be the only one, but he actually voices the word Bravo.
Speaker C:Bravo.
Speaker C:And then they cut to Zorg finding Leeloo having wiped out all the Mandalore.
Speaker C:And he goes, bravo.
Speaker C:Bravo.
Speaker C:Oh, there's like a Bravo transition.
Speaker C:I don't know what you call it.
Speaker D:But a Bravo transition.
Speaker D:I like that one.
Speaker C:So that's just kind of cool.
Speaker C:And there's.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Anyhow, he goes in there and then.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, I guess Leeloo remembers that these were the ones who shot.
Speaker B:Because she has flashbacks of the ship crashing.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:So on some level, she recognized these as the ones that shot her.
Speaker B:Shot her.
Speaker D:Shot the Mondachiwin's ship down.
Speaker C:Yeah, I didn't really think about it, but I guess she resorts to.
Speaker C:To violence, I guess, because that, like, payback, revenge.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:She had studied all the Bruce Lee and stuff.
Speaker C:Yeah, but she's like, violence is not her way and not the answer.
Speaker C:That doesn't ultimately save them.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:But like, I mean, it's a cool fight sequence, but I mean, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker C:I didn't think about till just now.
Speaker C:Yeah, but like her.
Speaker C:Like, maybe that wasn't.
Speaker C:Her plan is to go in there and beat them up.
Speaker C:But then she realized, oh, these are the assholes that shot me up.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah, these guys.
Speaker C:I'm about to beat them up, you know, because it still doesn't solve anything.
Speaker C:Like she beats them up, but then the stones still aren't there.
Speaker C:And Zor comes in, shoots the place all up and she gets injured and stuff like that.
Speaker C:Her beating them up doesn't.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, because the stones are in the.
Speaker C:In the Diva.
Speaker B:Diva.
Speaker B:Which I guess at this point we don't know because.
Speaker B:Because Zorg thinks that they're in the box.
Speaker B:And again, there's the sequence.
Speaker C:It's empty, right?
Speaker D:Just another empty box.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah, because Zorg goes to Floss in Paradise to just do it himself.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker D:He's frustrated and he finds the mistaken box that the Monda Cheat.
Speaker D:Not Monachi ones the Mangalores found.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker D:Poor Zorg.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because he was like, if you got to do something, you got to do it yourself.
Speaker B:And, you know, so you think it.
Speaker B:Anyway, they're not in the case.
Speaker B:So there were a Couple of.
Speaker B:There was a scene or two here, and Sherry noticed it also sort of reminiscent of Die Hard, like when he's being shot at by the Mangaloreans or whatever, and he's hiding, you know, throw me the gun.
Speaker B:Is those the pool balls or whatever?
Speaker D:Oh, gosh.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker C:Thank you very much.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's almost like a shoot the glass scene because, you know, he's sitting there, but then he, like, he jumps.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And he yells.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like the scene when he's jumping off the roof of Nakatomi.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:With the explosion behind him.
Speaker A:I was talking about also when she's in the.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:The air ducts.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Hiding in the air duck.
Speaker C:She pulls the Joe McLean.
Speaker C:For sure.
Speaker D:I was thinking in the.
Speaker D:In the scene previous to that, when Ruby Rod is entered, you know, walking the.
Speaker D:The auditorium, and she's like, that guy is the football player or laser ball player.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:And when I was a kid, I thought it was.
Speaker D:He can't hear anything because he's stoned out.
Speaker D:I thought, oh, he's this big celebrity.
Speaker D:He's stoned.
Speaker D:No, he's stoned.
Speaker D:Death.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:We're caught.
Speaker D:The death part.
Speaker D:So now the throw me the gun makes sense.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:Until the second time I watched it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:I thought he was stoned out.
Speaker D:Like, he was just on, you know, what a spice.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:Whatever.
Speaker D:Star Wars.
Speaker C:Right, right, right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So then there's negotiations.
Speaker B:So I have a false victory at the midpoint, and, of course, all is lost.
Speaker B:A false defeat.
Speaker B:Is that what that would.
Speaker C:What is your false defeat?
Speaker C:What happens?
Speaker B:Let's see.
Speaker B:So Zorg shows up, gets the box holding the stones.
Speaker B:Millia is getting shot in the air shaft and is injured.
Speaker B:The priest is captured and the diva killed.
Speaker B:Zorg sets a bomb, a ticking clock, and escapes with the case.
Speaker B:So it seems like everything is going against them.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:No, that's essentially what I had.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The diva getting shot and killed.
Speaker C:And then.
Speaker C:Because.
Speaker C:Because I feel like his break into two is figuring out the stones are in me.
Speaker C:What that means.
Speaker C:Because from that moment on, he's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because that's the first time he picks up.
Speaker C:Other than with the mugger.
Speaker C:That's the first time he, I think, picks up a gun and starts doing this thing, you know, being Bruce Willis.
Speaker C:Starts taking them all out.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Like he's running.
Speaker D:Do it his way.
Speaker C:Yeah, Right, right.
Speaker C:Which I think, to the back of the Die Hard references.
Speaker C:Like, if you're going to have a movie there with a bunch of Action.
Speaker C:If you got Bruce Willis in your movie and this is post I hard.
Speaker C:You got to have Bruce Willis.
Speaker C:Fucking Bruce Willis.
Speaker C:And have some cool stuff.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, those are some of my favorite parts.
Speaker C:When I saw it the first time, I was like, oh, this is amazing.
Speaker C:I mean.
Speaker C:Yeah, they're still cool now, but they're not, you know, I guess look at other stuff in the movie now, as opposed to when I was 15 or whatever when this came out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I guess, like the.
Speaker B:The all the.
Speaker B:Was the dark night of the soul.
Speaker B:Leela is near death and is all that matters.
Speaker B:Like, because he's.
Speaker B:I guess he gets her out of the shaft.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:He has to find her.
Speaker D:And they go to the security cameras.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Once they neutralize the.
Speaker D:Forget their name.
Speaker D:The Mangalores.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Once they neutralize them, he finds Lilu through the security cameras.
Speaker D:It goes and embraces her.
Speaker D:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:No, that's what happens.
Speaker B:Your death or whatever.
Speaker C:But that's the all as losses, her being near death.
Speaker B:Well, dark night of the soul.
Speaker B:Like, he's okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So what's his break into three, then?
Speaker B:Well, Lido's near death.
Speaker B:There's a bomb with only five minutes, and so everyone has to evacuate.
Speaker B:Zor gets Zord returns to get the stones carried.
Speaker B:But I guess Ruby is carrying him at this point because.
Speaker D:Yeah, they've removed him from the deal.
Speaker B:Removed him from the.
Speaker C:Yeah, he pulled him out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So just, I guess prior to getting the stones, there's a lot of loss here for Bruce and everybody.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:The break into three I have is.
Speaker B:And this I was.
Speaker B:I was a little unsure of this.
Speaker B:They steal Zorg's ship.
Speaker B:The evil is heading for.
Speaker B:Or they get the idea that the evil is heading for Earth.
Speaker B:Lilo gets to the W's of human history and learns about war.
Speaker B:It seems to.
Speaker B:It seems to almost kill her and make her lose hope of doing her job.
Speaker B:So this is.
Speaker B:This, to me, seemed like the darkest point of the film.
Speaker B:They steal Zorg ship.
Speaker B:Is that right in that Zorg?
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Zor gets there after realizing the stones are not.
Speaker D:In the second case.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:He's got.
Speaker D:Goes back onto Floss in Paradise ship.
Speaker D:And Bruce Willis is like, ooh, free ship.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They go in the elevator, and here comes Zorg.
Speaker B:He misses.
Speaker B:So the break into three, the third act is the storming of the castle and all that I have as them getting to the temple in Egypt.
Speaker B:Do you have it earlier?
Speaker C:Yeah, I have it earlier.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:So the end of the second act would be Zorg Blowing up on Floss in Paradise.
Speaker D:Is that right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then blasting off on Zorg's ship from Floss in Paradise to eat now.
Speaker D:That now they're going to fight the Big Bad, which is.
Speaker D:Yes, Shadow.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:So now it's third act.
Speaker D:They're on the ship.
Speaker D:They're going.
Speaker B:Yeah, but I think.
Speaker B:I think Chris.
Speaker C:Yeah, I just had it earlier because like if they're.
Speaker C:He's already found Lilu, right?
Speaker C:He's found Lilu.
Speaker C:He's.
Speaker C:He's taken off, right.
Speaker C:They got the stones.
Speaker C:Like that's a.
Speaker C:That's a false defeat, right?
Speaker C:That they're.
Speaker C:They escaped being blown up and we got the stones and I found Lilu.
Speaker C:Like that doesn't ring true to me.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:That's a false defeat, you know, like.
Speaker B:That was false to fear.
Speaker B:False.
Speaker B:Yeah, false defeat.
Speaker B:Well, I guess up to the.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:Because the Diva's dead, Leeloo is injured or whatever.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Zorg, I guess previous thought he had the stone.
Speaker B:Like it seemed to happen very quickly.
Speaker B:But yeah, it seems that.
Speaker B:That they.
Speaker B:The victory is getting to Flosston.
Speaker B:But then things happen and they don't have the stones until he figures out that they're in the Diva.
Speaker B:And he.
Speaker B:But Lilu is.
Speaker C:But then he's got to protect the stones.
Speaker C:He's got to keep the bad guys from getting them.
Speaker C:So to me, his breaking in three is him.
Speaker C:She says the stones are in me.
Speaker C:She needs you, Corbin.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And again, he's still doing it the wrong way, right.
Speaker C:Because he's not willing to profess his love, which comes later.
Speaker C:But I'm gonna do it my way.
Speaker C:He picks up the gun, he picks out the stone trend her.
Speaker C:And he tells Ruby, hold on to these.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Ruby can't go kill all the Mandalorians.
Speaker C:They got big foreheads and big teeth.
Speaker C:He can't do all that.
Speaker C:Right, Corbin Jill only can do it at this point and save the day his way.
Speaker C:So to me that's.
Speaker C:I mean there's a big action scene there where if that's the.
Speaker C:If that's the all is lost, right?
Speaker C:Like then where's his breaking?
Speaker C:Like that just feels like this big action scene.
Speaker C:This big moment for him picking up a gun and yeah, having this action scene like that to me just feels like too big of a moment for it to not to be the break into three or something.
Speaker C:Like it doesn't.
Speaker D:You know, there's a question I have.
Speaker C:I think there may be blurry.
Speaker C:I mean, I disagree.
Speaker D:Did he pick up a gun when Ruby Rod had the Mangalorean the gun to his head.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That was a very funny scene.
Speaker D:Bruce Willis hadn't fired a gun up until then, right?
Speaker C:I don't think so.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker D:He tried to defer.
Speaker C:He's put the gun on there and then he tells Ruby to hold it.
Speaker C:Hold it right here.
Speaker C:If he moves, kill him.
Speaker C:And then he's.
Speaker C:Well, give me a minute, give me anything.
Speaker C:And that's when he figures out the.
Speaker D:He was trying to do the non violent thing.
Speaker D:Just holding this.
Speaker C:True.
Speaker B:And then I don't know what she does, what he does, but she shoots him.
Speaker C:Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker C:Apologizing when he's dead.
Speaker D:That makes more sense.
Speaker D:Kind of linear.
Speaker D:Like Bruce Willis hadn't turned that corner yet.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:He was still trying to do the right thing.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Because violence, I guess even coming out of the military for whatever.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Because there's even like even the way the President and then the Monroe react to the way he deals with the situation.
Speaker C:You know, where did he learn that?
Speaker C:I wonder how did he learn to negotiate like that?
Speaker C:This is what you call a secret.
Speaker C:Like he's going there just shooting up the place and taking care of it, you know, wiping them all out.
Speaker D:So after the all is lost.
Speaker C:False defeat because all of the diva getting killed.
Speaker C:Leeloo getting, you know, injured in the Der Duck or in the Daredevil air duct.
Speaker D:Still have those in the future.
Speaker C:That to me is the.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I guess the all is lost.
Speaker C:And his dark knight is.
Speaker C:The stones are in me.
Speaker C:Corbin, she needs you.
Speaker C:Him figuring that out.
Speaker C:And everything else is breaking in three.
Speaker C:Like taking all these guys getting the stones escaping off from the bomb.
Speaker C:Like it's all one big action sequence to me.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah, I think.
Speaker C:But again, it's interesting that we disagree.
Speaker C:The beats may be a little blurry and that's why we disagree.
Speaker B:I guess I was.
Speaker B:Because I was looking for a clear break in the action from one.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Situation to another.
Speaker B:And until they had the stones and are ready to storm the castle.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So to speak.
Speaker B:I just, I guess I just.
Speaker B:I'm not saying you're wrong.
Speaker B:I guess.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Maybe I was looking for too linear a break because when they take off to go to Egypt, they are storming the castle, which is essentially the third act gathering the team and all that other stuff.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Wouldn't that make sense though?
Speaker D:The way that the second.
Speaker D:The second act started or the first act ended was him driving off in the taxi.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker D:The third act starts with them heading in the Ship to that.
Speaker D:That's where I would think the third break would be.
Speaker C:Yeah, no, it feels like it, but it just seems.
Speaker C:It just.
Speaker C:I don't know, it bugs me.
Speaker C:Because it's not a false defeat or whatever.
Speaker C:Yeah, because, like.
Speaker C:Because it's.
Speaker C:Because of the.
Speaker C:The whole breaking the three is in the Dark Knight is another debate scene.
Speaker C:Like the catalyst.
Speaker C:I can either do something about this or I can just let it happen.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker C:He's already recovered the stones.
Speaker C:He's already got Lilu.
Speaker C:Like, where were they headed?
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:He was just.
Speaker C:I mean, I guess his choice is don't go take out the big alien planet and save the world and just spend your last five minutes with Lilu.
Speaker C:I mean, that's unclear if that's the choice.
Speaker C:And so I feel like the choice, you know, either they're surrounded by bad guys, figure out what she means by the stones are in me, or wait and get killed or captured or whatever is going to happen.
Speaker C:If I'm being shot at and captured, where the hell is Lilu at?
Speaker C:I mean, it's all massive chaos.
Speaker C:So I feel like that's his breaking the three and they're just upping the.
Speaker C:The ante.
Speaker C:Like he dealt with the bad guy.
Speaker C:But, oh, guess what?
Speaker C:Zorg's not the main bad guy.
Speaker C:Here's this cosmic entity.
Speaker C:You still got to deal with that.
Speaker C:And that's where the.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:Yeah, I mean, I don't intentionally, because it's breaking the three ought to be also learning his lesson and dealing with it with love, which he doesn't.
Speaker C:So this where I guess goes to your point at the end, when they're lining all the stones like it's.
Speaker C:There's no violence there to solve, to save the day.
Speaker C:Like no guns or anything can save the day in this story.
Speaker B:It's right, right.
Speaker B:It has to be.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Because I think up to the point where he gets the stones out of the diva.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Is definitely a Dark Knight, because once he gets the stones out.
Speaker B:I remember thinking about that.
Speaker B:Well, how is that.
Speaker B:You know, he gets the stones now.
Speaker B:Yeah, but there's still Lilu, I guess.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, I can see what you're saying.
Speaker B:Because once he gets the stones, it's not necessarily a bad thing anymore.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So that could be where the third act starts.
Speaker C:And unless it's a false victory, you know, we have it backwards.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:I would think I would.
Speaker D:I would argue that it's a false.
Speaker B:Victory because the false deceit.
Speaker C:Bones, finally, Lou Everything's safe.
Speaker C:Oh, no, no, it's not.
Speaker D:As far as Bruce Willis is concerned.
Speaker D:I mean, and correct me if I'm wrong, but nowhere in the movie is Bruce Willis aware of the Shadow Planet.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Why did they explain that?
Speaker C:Just because Bruce will.
Speaker C:Because they forgot to tell Bruce Willis along the way.
Speaker C:But you're right.
Speaker C:Maybe it's.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:His false to your point to break into three years, go deal with the Shadow Planet thing because at this point he's gotten everything he thought he wanted.
Speaker D:Zorg's dead.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Other alien.
Speaker D:The bad aliens are dead.
Speaker D:He's on his way back home.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:He doesn't know about the Shadow Planet.
Speaker D:I mean, unless it was mentioned somewhere else in the movie.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:No, no, he doesn't.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I felt like it was.
Speaker C:That was one of the spots of the writing that bothered me was them having to tell him at the end.
Speaker C:You know, I was like, well, wait a minute.
Speaker D:But all they did was, you're going to save the world.
Speaker D:So he thought, okay, stones and these.
Speaker C:Mandalore guys get the stones.
Speaker C:Cool down the back.
Speaker D:What do you mean?
Speaker D:We got to go.
Speaker D:Egypt.
Speaker D:That's so.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's false victories and I don't know.
Speaker C:Midpoint.
Speaker C:What's the midpoint?
Speaker C:It's gonna be a false defeat somewhere.
Speaker C:Losing her.
Speaker C:But that seems way early.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know what would be the.
Speaker C:I'd have to go back and look.
Speaker B:At it about getting to.
Speaker D:Maybe the false defeat would be there at the end where Lilu just doesn't want to do it.
Speaker D:But I don't know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Structure wise.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, you know, because his whole break into three is convincing her to.
Speaker C:To help them out and.
Speaker C:And do that.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And we gotta.
Speaker C:My way is not gonna work.
Speaker C:You have to.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So I think you're right.
Speaker C:I think that is him taking off.
Speaker C:Is.
Speaker C:Is the breaking the three.
Speaker C:If it's a false.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker C:Victory.
Speaker C:So the false defeat is.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And these things aren't 100 rigid.
Speaker B:I mean more guides than anything.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So there is some.
Speaker B:I think we're hitting around it though.
Speaker B:But the third act is certainly dealing with.
Speaker D:There you go, Chris.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The third act is certainly dealing with the.
Speaker D:Goes by real quick.
Speaker B:It does.
Speaker B:The third act is certainly dealing with and defeating the Mr.
Speaker B:Shadow and the evil.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So very quickly I just had the gathering of the team.
Speaker B:So the team is essentially gathered, but they got to work together to try to figure out what.
Speaker B:How these stones work.
Speaker B:And it is until the young priest Discovers.
Speaker B:Which I thought, I thought was pretty clever, you know, I like the way they did that, breathing on it.
Speaker D:Tell me exactly what you did.
Speaker C:So we're not going to make it.
Speaker C:And they all just stand there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, even Ruby Rudd's comment about why do I do one that's broke?
Speaker C:Mine's broke.
Speaker C:I have to get the broke one.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So a lot of, a lot of good sequences there.
Speaker B:The hightower surprise.
Speaker B:Okay, so they storm the castle, but then there's another setback.
Speaker B:Leeloo seems to die.
Speaker B:They only have five minutes and they have to.
Speaker B:And they have no idea how to work the stones.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:This is when the young priest discovers how he made his work.
Speaker D:That would be the one thing I would think that would be passed along through generations of that priesthood is how you operate the damn stones.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker B:Well, he says theoretically.
Speaker C:Yeah, in theory.
Speaker C:He keeps saying in theory.
Speaker B:In theory.
Speaker B:But yeah, but they've never had to.
Speaker D:They never had to do it 5,000 years ago.
Speaker B:But yeah, someone.
Speaker C:Yeah, I should have wrote it down.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker B:That would have been.
Speaker C:Oh, damn.
Speaker D:Maybe, maybe the professor at the beginning of the movie hadn't gotten that far.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Well, okay, yeah, the dig.
Speaker B:The dig deep down I have is this conversation that he has with Lilo that, you know, that you are just going to destroy yourselves.
Speaker B:What's it worth saving for?
Speaker B:And you know, and he says, well, you know, love or whatever.
Speaker B:And, and so love is worth saving.
Speaker C:You know, she has a good line.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:Love.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Execution of the new plan.
Speaker B:This is the five step, the five stage finale that Edwards has come up with.
Speaker B:Storm the castle.
Speaker B:Gathering the team.
Speaker B:Dig deep down.
Speaker B:Execution of the new plan.
Speaker B:Lilu rises.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And then evil is destroyed.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So they get all the stones and the final image.
Speaker B:Leeloo and Corbin, happy, love and his perfect woman.
Speaker B:Right, so to your point that he was alone, he's looking for his perfect woman.
Speaker B:Well, at the end he's not alone.
Speaker B:He's happy and he's got his perfect woman.
Speaker B:I really liked that scene and I really liked that very.
Speaker B:The, the freeze frame image of them smiling at each other with the.
Speaker B:I thought I even liked the blue.
Speaker B:Like the blue.
Speaker D:Yeah, that distorted color.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I thought like every time I see that I just feel good.
Speaker B:Like, so I really think they nailed that.
Speaker D:I really like the song that's playing under there.
Speaker D:Like, I'll let that play.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:So cool.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:For some of the right feelings.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that's.
Speaker B:That's everything I had about it.
Speaker B:I like this movie.
Speaker B:I really did.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Maybe it's bugging me on the beats.
Speaker C:So maybe going back to the midpoint being we said it's going to be a false defeat if getting the stones finally was a false victory.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Maybe being reunited with her and then being knocked out and separated from her again is a false defeat or something.
Speaker B:That could be.
Speaker B:Yeah, definitely a false defeat.
Speaker C:And then, you know, it's.
Speaker C:It's all fake or whatever because, you know, the father there is for nefarious purposes, whatever.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:He knocks him out and, you know, he comes back to him.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:Well, that, that had to.
Speaker D:That has to make sense because when the stewardess hits the button, only he falls asleep.
Speaker B:We only see him fall asleep.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:No, she's going down the row knocking them all out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Lilu's still awake.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:She didn't hit hers.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:So that's.
Speaker D:That may be a point of.
Speaker D:That's where I just had her in my hands and.
Speaker D:Yeah, it's gone.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Kind of makes sense.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then he gets her, but it's false victory because you still got to deal with this alien thing, this alien cosmic entity planet guy, whatever it is.
Speaker D:Another situation.
Speaker D:He gets knocked out.
Speaker D:Now he can't talk to her.
Speaker C:Guns won't in his way.
Speaker C:Guns won't solve it at the end.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You can tell that show.
Speaker B:You love this movie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:What did you.
Speaker C:Would you.
Speaker C:You like anything about it?
Speaker C:What did you.
Speaker C:Why did you not like it?
Speaker B:I guess I don't.
Speaker A:I don't like that type of sci fi, y' all.
Speaker A:Y' all were naming all these kind.
Speaker D:Of whatever they are, the racers or the.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker A:And I'm like, it's a lot.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The language was hard for me.
Speaker B:You know, she.
Speaker B:She didn't like time travel for the same reason.
Speaker A:I don't like time travel.
Speaker A:No, but.
Speaker C:No, I mean, Star Wars.
Speaker C:No back.
Speaker A:No, I like.
Speaker A:I like Star wars and I like Back to the Future.
Speaker A:That's acceptable for time travel.
Speaker A:However, I mean, this, this movie, it was worth watching once.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I won't watch it again.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It had its moments.
Speaker A:It was funny.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's weird.
Speaker C:I mean, it's out there for sure.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's very stylish.
Speaker C:Weird movie.
Speaker B:It's very, very.
Speaker C:Visually, it's.
Speaker C:I think it's really.
Speaker B:Which is like.
Speaker B: Like: Speaker B:I can't watch them.
Speaker B:Like, I don't Like Kubrick.
Speaker B:Kubrick is that way anyway.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B: ke, I feel the Same way about: Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:That whole scene at the end with the baby and embryo.
Speaker B:Come on, man, give me something at least.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker D:You just don't get it, Phil.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I absolutely do not get it.
Speaker A:Even.
Speaker A:Even the traffic scenes in this movie were too chaotic for me.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, I'm like, okay, what.
Speaker A:What's the fog?
Speaker A:And why are they.
Speaker A:You know, I just, like, that's the.
Speaker D:Cool part about this director is all that little tiny stuff like you were mentioning.
Speaker D:The more spikes they have, the higher up they are.
Speaker D:Even the ads in the background and the cars, they were just.
Speaker D:They were great.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:And so it added that anxiety for me.
Speaker D:When you see all that zooming around, you're like, oh, my God.
Speaker B:If you watch.
Speaker B:If you watch the fact track, like, every half a second, there's a fact coming up.
Speaker B:I mean, I.
Speaker B:I finally just stopped watching it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because it was so much.
Speaker B:There is so much.
Speaker B:And there's a whole nother disc to the.
Speaker B:To the one I have, which I'm sure is nice because they kept making.
Speaker B:If you want to know more about this, watch the such and such documentary on the disc.
Speaker B:Like, oh, my God.
Speaker D:Wow.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:You could.
Speaker B:We could.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Anyway.
Speaker B:Very stylistic.
Speaker B:The world in these kind of movies is almost important.
Speaker B:Is almost another character.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:The way it's so developed.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:I would say, you know, kind of take it back to the beginning of the podcast of.
Speaker D:I don't know how that story would be stretched into three movies as it was intended, but the world.
Speaker D:That might be cool to see another story in that world.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:To see what could be done with it.
Speaker D:Because it was a very vivid, colorful.
Speaker B:Well, the thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, the idea of flying, like Minority.
Speaker B:This world almost feels like Minority Report.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:With the world only have, like, flying cars or.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:You know, that's obviously more serious.
Speaker B:It's not a comedy or whatever.
Speaker B:This isn't really a comedy.
Speaker C:And even the.
Speaker C:The cigarette dispenser in his house.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:It's only for a day.
Speaker C:Your goal is to quit.
Speaker B:My goal is to quit.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:And it was extra long filters.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:A little bit of like two puffs on it and it's gone.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Dystopian.
Speaker B:So this world is not overcrowded, obviously.
Speaker C:You know, it's actually.
Speaker C:I was reading about table.
Speaker B:You know, I mean, I was reading.
Speaker C:But it's one of the.
Speaker C:The few, like, cheery, futuristic.
Speaker C:You Know, version of, like, the version to the future.
Speaker C:Like, it's happy.
Speaker C:Like people aren't depressed.
Speaker C:Like, most time people go, it may be the future dystopian, and it's messed up.
Speaker C:It's the future, but everybody's happy.
Speaker D:Everybody.
Speaker D:It's generally the same as it is now.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Type of thing.
Speaker B:You think this world almost like, you know, if you looked at Judge Dredd.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That world.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:The same city, but that is dark and depressing.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker D:I'm living the opposite side of the coin, I think.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Right now.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm living Helmet versus Judge.
Speaker C:Judge Dreg because.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Same kind of feel of the city.
Speaker B:Just as a.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Mega City One and Judge Red and Blade Runner could.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Those feel like they were in the same universe almost.
Speaker C:All right, so I'd give it a recommend.
Speaker C:I think Sherry would definitely give it a recommend.
Speaker C:Just playing.
Speaker A:Just one time.
Speaker C:One time.
Speaker A:It's not one of those that I would watch over and over.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:But I think that's important, though, because there's some movies where I'm like, I'm not even watching that once, so to say I'd watch it once.
Speaker A:Got Bruce Willis, of course.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:There was no way.
Speaker C:Blind Date.
Speaker C:I wish I hadn't watched it.
Speaker C:You know, I mean.
Speaker B:So you talk about the two directors, though, the competence and the vision of.
Speaker B:Now, I don't want to slam Blake Edwards because he makes a certain kind of movie, and he probably did that well.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:So maybe it's apples and oranges, but just in terms of storytelling, I don't think you go to a Blake Edwards movie to get a story, though.
Speaker B:I don't think.
Speaker B:I think you go to Blake Edwards to see Gangs, and so you really can't slam him for that.
Speaker B:He did his genre well.
Speaker B:But maybe it's not something that it's.
Speaker B:Maybe it's the difference between, like, popcorn and ribeye steak.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I mean, you know, you want a snack, you get an Edwards movie.
Speaker D:But I say baloney sandwiches.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Ragu steak.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Anyway, I would say I.
Speaker D:What are our three options?
Speaker D:Recommend.
Speaker B:Pass.
Speaker B:Consider.
Speaker B:Recommend.
Speaker D:I actually had recommend.
Speaker D:I'd pat.
Speaker D:I'm sorry.
Speaker D:I'd recommend it.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker D:I'm going backwards.
Speaker D:I recommend it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, I would.
Speaker B:I'd give it a hard recommend.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I enjoyed it.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:If I was a producer, I'd put my money on it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Very good.
Speaker D:Even though Luc Besson would have me nowhere near set.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:I'd put money on it.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, money on it and.
Speaker C:Pray the dailies come back the way you know, you hope.
Speaker D:You imagine the producer sitting there going, what is this?
Speaker D:What is he making?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Well.
Speaker B:And then you look at something like Leon, which is a totally different film.
Speaker B:I mean, it's a modern day, you know, but both those films are amazing, right?
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:That one's very sparse, very character mood driven.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it's the competence of the storyteller that, I mean, I think Bassan is for sure has really got it.
Speaker D:Well, cool.
Speaker B:Any other thoughts?
Speaker B:All right, well, that is fifth Element.
Speaker D:Hopefully they.
Speaker D:Hopefully, whoever listens to it can watch Fifth Element with a little bit more perspective now.
Speaker B:Sure, absolutely.
Speaker C:Maybe a little take Sherry's approach and multi pass, you know, Multipass.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Coming down as multipass.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:All right, we're out.
Speaker D:You just don't get it, Phil.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I absolutely do not get it.
Speaker B:Leave me alone.
Speaker D:You're not invited on set doing what I want to do.
Speaker B:I don't know who writes these things.
Speaker D:I remember seeing it in the theater over opening weekend.
Speaker D:I knew nothing about the movie.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Well, I've been trying to avoid watching it all these years.
Speaker B:An innocent.
Speaker B:A sudden event.
Speaker B:Life and death scar.
Speaker B:He made this role his very own.
Speaker C:The good guy and the bad guy never meet.
Speaker D:That's a good problem to ask.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They're very surprised that it's a woke woman.
Speaker C:Yeah, right.
Speaker C:Perfect is not a man.
Speaker C:It's a woman.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Auto wash.
