APOLLO 13

Episode Apollo 13 Review

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[00:00:05] Chris: All of this, like I felt like all the exposition was very, very tight and well done.

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[00:00:14] Sherry: That's like Ricky Bobby, he's covering his bases. Yeah, same with Tom Cruise, you know.

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[00:00:26] Sherry: It's like, once you start it, it's like, okay, I got to see where this is going. [00:00:30]

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[00:00:34] Phil: That was the weakest part of that scene.

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[00:00:44] Phil: Fellowship of the real four friends in a movie, one podcast rule them all. Uh, this time we were doing Twister and, uh, Apollo 13 for this recording. And I think we're going to start with Apollo 13. It was my pick. And we'll get into that in just a second.

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[00:01:02] Sherry: Okay.

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[00:01:12] Phil: All right, Sherry, hit us up.

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[00:01:29] James: [00:01:30] you think so? Well,

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[00:01:32] James: Well, we'll see. I know it. I'm sure

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[00:01:35] James: If you don't know it, you're dumb.

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[00:01:40] Sherry: Well,

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[00:01:42] Sherry: know it. We'll see. Well, maybe you might know anyway Now when I was looking this up When I was looking this up turns out part of This house will be all right Good part of the quote when I was looking is that part of the quote is actually from a famous quote [00:02:00] from one of your relatives Winston Churchill

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[00:02:04] Sherry: distant.

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[00:02:07] Phil: My grandmother's, yeah. My father's side grandmother do somehow through that anyway.

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[00:02:22] James: Galaxy quest. Galaxy quest. Yeah. I could not remember the name, but never give up.

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[00:02:31] Phil: is a fantastic We need to do that sometime. Oh, yeah.

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[00:02:47] Sherry: I don't know. The first quote was actually something that they said. It was like the best quote from the movie. It says, quote, every time we get a chance to learn, we should take it. [00:03:00] Okay. And the second quote from the same movie here at NASA, we all pee the same color.

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[00:03:07] Sherry: Yes.

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[00:03:10] Sherry: it the second one? Yep. Okay. Yep.

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[00:03:17] Phil: and tears the sign down. I love that movie. I have owned that movie, but I've only seen it once. I need to watch it again.

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[00:03:44] Phil: Oh, that's crazy.

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[00:03:51] Chris: Favorite is in of all time or just of the day.

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[00:04:01] Sherry: Ready?

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[00:04:02] Sherry: Let me get through it. Cause you're probably going to know it. You're NASA for crying out loud. You put a man on the moon. You're geniuses. You're, you're the guys on, uh, thinking shit up. I'm sure you got a team of men sitting around somewhere right now, just thinking shit up and somebody backing them up.

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[00:04:25] Sherry: That is one of my favorites.

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[00:04:42] Chris: And what the thought that ran through my mind was that quote. I was like, well, these are the guys sitting around thinking, shut up. That's why.

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[00:04:51] Chris: Right. Yeah. Yes. Steely Eyed Rocket Man. That's right. Yeah, yeah. You know, Steely Eyed Rocket Man.

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[00:04:59] Phil: What was that [00:05:00] from? Paul XIII. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I think that was. That's what he says to him. The right stuff, maybe. I can't, I don't know if they say Steely Eyed Rocket Man in Bite Style. That's an older movie. Okay. That's what he says to him in Paul XIII, though.

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[00:05:13] Phil: the filter works. Yes, yeah, the

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[00:05:18] Chris: Yes, once that works, he turns to the one guy that looked like he hadn't slept in a week. Sure, four days at least. Right, right, right. All right, Shay, that's it.[00:05:30]

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[00:05:46] Chris: I got,

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[00:05:49] Chris: So it'll be four left or total. Okay. Yeah. So soon it'll just be we have now? Yeah. Eight.

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[00:05:56] Chris: effects. Like ten.

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[00:05:58] James: Yeah. Laser [00:06:00] sounds.

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[00:06:12] Phil: Okay. So one of these numbers didn't surprise me and one did. Critics, over the course of it's life, and we always have to say that because it's Rotten Tomatoes was not around during a lot of these movies, but over the course of its life, 96 percent critics. So a near perfect movie. And I agree with that.[00:06:30]

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[00:06:47] Chris: I wonder if that's is that like, you know, my son's generation, right?

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[00:06:58] James: of drama [00:07:00] Yes. Right. I mean, I, I love it. That's the edge of the seat. Yeah. All right. For me.

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[00:07:05] Phil: when you picked it. Like, yeah.

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[00:07:08] Phil: Well, so what Neil Armstrong landed on the moon was 69 late 69 July.

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[00:07:38] Phil: I don't know. And I'm wondering, okay, so that was back during America, America's always has problems. Every country has. But, but there was this idea. That we're America and we have to be the best at everything and we're going to try to be the best at everything. And the space race was probably one of the primest examples of that, right?[00:08:00]

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[00:08:13] Phil: Yes. And. So there is, and it's probably our generation and earlier that grew up with this idea that you can do things that if it's hard, you work harder.

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[00:08:56] James: Yeah, how did they solve this problem? Like, it's a movie about a [00:09:00] problem to be solved. Yes. And that sounds hard.

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[00:09:03] Chris: And, and, yes. Yeah, they didn't want to watch it, and I was, I was annoyed, I guess, and even slightly, I don't want to say hurt, I didn't make the movie, but. Yeah. I was like, what? It's tom hanks like you don't you don't want to so like what i'd you know the movie We it was probably three hour run time in our house because when stuff would happen i'm like nope He needs to see this i'm gonna force him to watch these certain scenes So I pause it rewind the shit call him get him in here After five minutes yelling at him and watch it and he goes [00:09:30] Okay, and then he'd leave like he had a few comments and I'm like, all right get the hell out of here I was like, yeah, I didn't want to watch it.

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[00:09:41] James: stuff like this. He's like, no, I'm good I was explaining it to my youngest while it was on I'm like, hey, you know that the video game on your phone right now They went they're doing this with less

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[00:09:52] Phil: I had a Commodore 64 which was sick not not not 64 You gigabytes. Okay. That was 64 megabytes, which [00:10:00] an ebook today has more than that. You couldn't, you know, this thing is. I'm talking about the 12 amps or whatever. You know, my Commodore 64 computer. Okay. That's what you're talking about.

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[00:10:11] James: Like on the cell phone to, you know, last night has more

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[00:10:15] James: more power, more memory, more everything than the Apollo, than the Apollo missions had at full capacity, the

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[00:10:33] James: Uh. Well, in the scene where he's doing the trajectory to do the flight gimbal by hand. Yeah, he's got a formula

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[00:10:41] James: And I'm like, see that? He's stranded in space. So, you know, I was like, he's, he's doing math by hand to get home. When is

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[00:10:51] Chris: Yeah. And she's just like. Who's going to do good math at that point anyway? She's like, okay. You know what I mean? Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Sounds hard.

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[00:11:00] Chris: Same reaction.

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[00:11:09] Phil: He was, he was showing off the gloves that he used in Rocky and he was going on about nowadays these things are lethal. These are illegal. You can't even, you know, and, and then he made the offhanded comment. Well, every, you know, people were tougher back then. I'm just sorry. They just were, they were just tougher back then.

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[00:11:26] Phil: And I think that's The generation of Apollo [00:11:30] 13 and this kind of thing that You know, Krantz says failure is not an option. That, that was the name of his book that he wrote. Mm-Hmm. , uh, one of the tear-jerking movements for movements for me in the movies. When, when, uh, ed Harris turns and said, uh, all due respect, sir, I think this will be our finest hour.

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[00:11:46] Chris: Uh, yeah. 'cause they were talking about percentages and making it back and all that stuff. Yes.

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[00:12:01] James: Well, I think, you know, these days that's pretty broad brush, but I think these days there are people just like that in the shadows, still grinding away, not making a name for themselves, but the people that are popular these days, the, the icons, the influencers, that's, they don't have a shred of that kind of thing.

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[00:12:33] Chris: No, yeah, I agree.

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[00:12:34] Chris: I agree. It's broad brush, but yeah, there's, there's still some good, but there, there's a lot of, yeah, entitlement and laziness.

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[00:12:59] Chris: And I don't know if that's [00:13:00] just some shitty made up or if it's true. Like I said, I haven't looked it up, but. That's, I mean, I can kind of see that really being true. Well, you

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[00:13:11] Sherry: I heard

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[00:13:15] Sherry: heard some military speak on.

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[00:13:30] Phil: No, no. Well, I, I was in the Navy, but I went, I was a staff officer. So I didn't go, I wasn't like enlisted or, or whatever. We were support. I've heard people who have come out of the military after I got out say now like drill sergeants, they, you shouldn't be able to touch or beat them.

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[00:13:58] Sherry: okay. So are you going to be [00:14:00] able to do that on the battlefield? That's what I'm saying.

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[00:14:04] Chris: And you can't do that if you're up. And anyway, that's yeah. I mean, you know, so I, I think, I think James is volunteering, defending the country. Like that's yeah. You gotta be made a good stuff to do that.

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[00:14:19] Phil: I think James is right, there are I

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[00:14:22] Phil: Steely eyed rocket men out there, rocket persons. Okay? But I don't necessarily think that they're rewarded.

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[00:14:29] Phil: Like they [00:14:30] should be.

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[00:14:31] Phil: For their efforts.

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[00:14:32] Phil: For sure. They're, yeah, they're,

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[00:14:34] James: all the followers that, you know, yeah, some MTA. Yeah, they're out there, you know, in the finance world.

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[00:14:57] Phil: Yeah. Anyway, so I, and we'll get [00:15:00] into it when we talk about theme, but I think maybe, and it's just my thoughts that why that's, this movie doesn't merit more fan reviews higher than it does. Cause you know, the budget was 50 to 52 million and this movie absolutely killed it domestically. 173 million international, 181 million.

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[00:15:30] Chris: What's that? That's in 1995. At 1995,

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[00:15:33] Chris: Sorry.

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[00:15:38] James: Total,

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[00:15:39] James: gross. And this is a Ron Howard, Brian Grazer, lightning in a bottle that they seem to do thing. Like right there in the 95. So that was them. In their prime, striking on all cylinders.

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[00:15:55] Chris: I seen what that was with Tom Hanks too, right? Yeah, Tom Hanks. I mean, he had done big in the, you know, a lot of [00:16:00] the comedies, whatever, but like, uh, League of Their Own was, was right before this. And then he had done Forrest Gump. Oh, yeah. Right, and then this happens, and then, like, he did, oh my gosh, Saving Private Ryan a couple years later.

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[00:16:26] Phil: All right. Any other thoughts on box office and you know, [00:16:30] anything like that? I think we'll get into when we talk about theme, but I think this movie comes from a generation that maybe had different values or at least rewarded different values anyway. All right. We're ready for the beats.

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[00:17:18] Phil: So this is the template and it, you punch in how many pages or minutes the movie is, And then the template will spit out where those beats should fall. So, you know, for instance, the midpoint here is it should be at [00:17:30] 69 minutes. The break in the three should be around 107 minutes. Catalyst around 15, debate 1630, that kind of thing.

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[00:17:58] Phil: So [00:18:00] this movie now, I don't know that they use save the cat, but it saved the cat is not necessarily unique. Other systems call it different names. So I think it is very well structured and hits very tightly where it should. Throughout the whole movie, the storytellers, the writers, the directors knew they had a story to tell and they were familiar and acquainted with the container that they could put that story in to make it tight.

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[00:18:26] James: I think it really lands. Yeah, I think, I think with Ron Howard [00:18:30] being at the helm, he's every bit, you know, maybe not as a masterful as Scorsese and Spielberg, but he's. 99 percent of what they are. So I think, you know, they knew what they were doing. They had great source material, great, you know, authentic, real American story to tell.

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[00:18:53] Phil: Yes. Cause this movie comes in at two hours and 20 minutes. And when you're dealing with that kind of. material, the length of that, [00:19:00] it'd be, to me, it would be very easy to just sort of get lost and start meandering, dragging.

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[00:19:12] Sherry: Did you see that interview I was watching with Johnny Carson? I think it was Johnny Carson. Or was it David Letterman? It was well, David Letterman. No, it was Conan O'Brien. Conan O'Brien. It was Lovell. Yeah.

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[00:19:29] Phil: [00:19:30] Yeah.

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[00:19:30] Phil: don't need to make up anything. And I, and I, I don't, yeah, I don't think that, no, some of the family life stuff, probably, I don't know, unless that was in the book too. I don't know.

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[00:20:02] Phil: It was almost, and it wasn't a documentary, but to me, it almost seemed like a dramatized documentary. There wasn't. We've had other movies where, you know, this means that, and, and there are layers and, you know, illusions and I don't know that, that we, we got some of that, uh, maybe and we could talk about it, but it is a straightforward telling.

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[00:20:49] James: sexual innuendo,

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[00:20:53] Phil: Yeah.

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[00:20:57] Phil: Yes. The Apollo crew, the other two [00:21:00] members of Lovell's crew talk about how they're the best. So it's very much this, you know, pilots. Bravado, we're the best, you know, just because it's the night of

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[00:21:20] James: They live in Houston, right? But they launch from Florida.

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[00:21:27] James: right? So they hand off, but all the guys, it looked [00:21:30] like they all lived in Houston. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay.

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[00:21:36] Chris: That's Houston or they like had to relocate to know like why he's training and stuff. I'm sure he lived in Florida he would go. Yeah. Well, well or all in Houston, and then they just moved the Officers on that big tank thing mission

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[00:21:50] Chris: in Houston So everything that they do for the mission would have been in

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[00:21:54] Chris: so they just traveled the Florida Well, we've

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[00:22:19] Sherry: Yeah. So all of the people working on the, the ship itself would be located, I guess, in Florida, but when we went to NASA down [00:22:30] in Houston, you actually see, we actually saw that room. What is the

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[00:22:37] Sherry: room, mission control room,

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[00:22:40] James: screens

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[00:23:10] Sherry: Pool makes a wait list. So yeah, they would probably have their families all live in Houston and all the astronauts would probably Yeah. Go to Florida. Yeah. And then just,

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[00:23:26] Chris: didn't pick the same thing sense now.

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[00:23:31] Phil: Alright. So anyway, the opening image, these guys were rocket steel, ad rocket guys and they're, they, you know, they're the best. Just ask them, they'll tell you kind of thing.

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[00:23:49] Chris: Obviously had, you know, drew the short straw, had to run out and get the alcohol and haul ass back or whatever. But I thought. Like think about the movie and where it goes. He's going nowhere fast. You know what I [00:24:00] mean? Like he's, he's going real fast in a sports car and all that, but he's, you know what I mean?

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[00:24:11] James: a lot of allusion to that, but I think like in the storyline, they were like next in line to go into the moon and they get bumped up. So everything's looking good for him.

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[00:24:24] Chris: Yeah, show him in his flashy car. Yeah, this life's great. Yeah. Life

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[00:24:36] Phil: Well. Motorcycles and different.

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[00:24:48] James: And he says that's the second time it's happened. Right.

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[00:24:55] James: something is looming that's And they had said, you know, you're, you're lifting off on April thir or [00:25:00] you're being pulled in by the moon's gravity on April 13th.

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[00:25:07] Chris: she It comes after 12. Was it

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[00:25:09] Sherry: drops her ring down the drain. Yep, down the drain.

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[00:25:22] Phil: Anyway, the setup, do you think Ken getting the measles

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[00:25:38] Sherry: think that was an answer to prayer.

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[00:25:41] James: I don't want to jump too far ahead, but I think that's a false defeat.

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[00:25:47] James: him getting measles and being pulled out because they've been working so damn hard,

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[00:25:58] Sherry: right launch, but you know [00:26:00] what?

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[00:26:05] Phil: up going on the level? Never went back, but Sinise did. Yeah. Even piloted the space ship.

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[00:26:12] Phil: measles. So the, yeah,

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[00:26:24] James: Now we need something to happen. You know, to get the public's attention. So this guy's a good [00:26:30] pilot. Let's pull him off of here and put up another guy and let that crash. But that's a conspiracy theory in my own brain. Totally. That I got from this movie, but that's what it seemed like is they had the deck stacked against them.

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[00:26:56] Chris: Yep. Sorry. I jumped. No, no,

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[00:27:03] Phil: They were using pure oxygen and the door you couldn't open from the inside kind of thing or whatever, which they fixed. Straight laced again. Okay. So he makes this illusion because Tom, so the type of hero back then was, You're a guy in a tie. You're, you're a disciplined military man. You're, you know, these are the rules.

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[00:27:30] James: it. It can get on top of you. It can't. Talking about champagne or? Yeah, champagne. Oh, okay. For me, anyway. Sure. Well, I mean, it's alcoholic, but it's It depends on what kind of champagne.

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[00:27:45] Chris: Mm. Yeah. All right. You know it was expensive because it was the last one in Houston, right? Sure. So nobody was still sitting there because nobody wanted to pay for it.

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[00:27:56] Phil: That's the party they're at. Straight laced. Not used to the champagne. [00:28:00] So Tom Hanks is very order and discipline, you know, even with this Almost, almost uptight. Almost uptight. Because he even tells his son haircut. Get a haircut. And that's the shortest hair I've Yeah, it's high time already. I don't think my hair's ever

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[00:28:12] James: But he's in a military academy and the son was saying, I'm on, you know, break.

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[00:28:32] Phil: The wife is concerned about this superstitious 13. Why did it have to be 13? It comes after 12, honey. Uh, this is his mentality. The mentality of steely eyed rocket men. There is no superstition. And we're going to get into this, especially when he, when we hit the theme of what I think the theme is. And that is reiterated throughout the movie.

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[00:29:00] James: Well, they went from 18 months to six months. Six months, yes. So they got pushed up a whole bunch. Yes,

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[00:29:06] James: Cram.

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[00:29:25] Sherry: Is he the kid from a pet cemetery? Yes.

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[00:29:34] Phil: He's that kid. Well, his son, we fixed it. Nothing we can't do. There's nothing we can't do. And I put in brackets, or fix. So he's telling his son, no, no, we fixed that. There's nothing we can't do, you know. He says that, there's nothing we can't do.

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[00:30:06] Phil: Our guys were bumped up early because of the inflammation in the pilot's ear, the other

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[00:30:17] Chris: give him some space drugs and clear that shit up. Well, I guess

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[00:30:23] James: Training, I guess, yeah. Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

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[00:30:40] Phil: Thanks, lad. Appreciate it. Okay.

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[00:31:01] Phil: He says, it's not a miracle. We just decided to go. And Chris had mentioned that. Later level says it's divine intervention, which at first I thought, okay, well, which is it, is it just our ingenuity and intelligence or is it God helping us along, which I thought was. Not the same, but he said the best part of each one of us, the belief is that anything is possible.

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[00:31:37] James: And that's, that's sort of his mentality.

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[00:31:56] James: I want the guy who built it on the assembly line to come in here and squeeze [00:32:00] the Yes. So it's exactly it. Yeah. It's a Call. Yes. All the hearts and minds.

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[00:32:21] Phil: So, you know, there's still the echo of this and sleep faster,

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[00:32:32] Phil: hates the

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[00:32:34] Phil: You're right. That's absolutely right. Yeah. The top level, level of Tom Hanks says the astronaut is only the most visible part of a vast team or whatever.

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[00:32:43] Chris: this movie shows you that.

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[00:32:54] Chris: You

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[00:32:55] Chris: to infinity and beyond that's, that's the thing. Is that what you're saying?

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[00:32:59] Sherry: beyond. Oh my gosh. [00:33:00] I, I had written that down to possibly use that. Oh, is it a quote?

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[00:33:07] Sherry: Yeah. Well, it is

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[00:33:12] Sherry: Yeah. But I said, but no, that's a toy movie.

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[00:33:28] Phil: Anyway, I picked the catalyst [00:33:30] and, and it seems almost, it seems like it shouldn't be. One of the crew has measles, measles, and they need to replace him or scrub the whole crew and go on a later mission. So the catalyst that sort of spurs them is we have to pull one of your crew and you have a choice now.

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[00:33:56] Sherry: Yeah.

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[00:34:10] Phil: And this sort of is that, but. Yeah. But I think it, it hits at 15 minutes, almost exactly. which is where it should be, and it is a serious choice, and there is a significant debate portion about that decision. The debate, best bad choice, one, one of the whole crew, I don't have the measles, I'm not going to get the measles, something maybe that, [00:34:30] and I'm calling, so, so all this talk about something that can be fixed, here's something that they can't fix.

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[00:34:39] Chris: right?

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[00:34:42] Chris: and

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[00:34:42] Chris: Yeah, that's interesting like for me It's like a mine was a little bit different on the catalyst Okay, thinking about the movie like ahead of time then I guess it's been a while since I'd seen it Yeah, it's like well Houston.

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[00:35:00] Phil: going to the moon at that point. Right. You know, this is all the ordinary. We're in the middle of this, but this is ordinary for these guys to do training, go to the moon.

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[00:35:11] Chris: Yeah. But it's just, it's late. I have it more of as a midpoint, but right. The callous to me was getting bumped up, right? Because you said you're looking for something for space. So getting bumped up and then the, there's, there's not much of a debate, but it's all the foreshadowing stuff.

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[00:35:37] Chris: They're like, it seemed, well, I'm going to, I'll retire then. This will be my last mission. Not knowing what's going to fucking happen. Right? Like he thought, well, I'll go to the moon and that'll be it. Yeah, that'll be it. That's just kind of where I wrote it was just the, what you said makes sense. I'm not saying I'm right by any means.

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[00:36:02] Phil: yeah because Him being bumped

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[00:36:08] Chris: Yeah. But there was debate on everybody else and the wife, right. Like, and he's so, yeah. Yeah. He loved it. And he's so distracted that, you know, the wife just gets on to the daughter about, you know, the hippie outfit she's got on, you can't go out like that. And then she goes, dad, I know what this Yeah. Great.

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[00:36:22] James: Lo was thinking that too. 'cause he keeps pressing forward, like with all these obstacles being thrown at him. He keeps saying, [00:36:30] yes, like his wife is saying, don't do it. I'm not going got a damn hippie daughter. And then, you know, he gets sick and is pulling out.

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[00:36:38] Chris: Yeah. Yeah. And he still says, yeah, I thought that was like running games type stuff with can get in the measles. I just thought that was because once he's, is he, I don't know. And you like this, he comes home and he's like, well, I got to get down there. Yeah. She was okay. Go. And then he goes out the door.

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[00:36:55] Phil: But

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[00:37:01] James: kind of what I had. Initially that

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[00:37:06] Phil: two. Sure. Because in the Right up to that is still the debate.

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[00:37:25] Chris: go. Yeah, you know No, yeah, you're just better yet cuz he Sticking with the [00:37:30] mission and launching off.

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[00:37:38] Phil: a training failure. So they've got Bacon's character. I keep forgetting swagger He's got a lot of swag man. So

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[00:37:44] Phil: like he two days before the launch. They're having to Now he's been training with them, but it's two days before the launch and Swaggart is still killing them in the module, killing them in the module.

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[00:38:06] Chris: me

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[00:38:11] Phil: I think of. Sunnys getting measles who's not got the measles, you know, do we go or not go and so there is it is like 10 or 15 minutes of Scene after scene of that, of, of go or not go until, and even 60 seconds before, like I said, with the abort switch close in, like the camera, that's all you see. It fills [00:38:30] the screen and you can see Tom Hanks looking at it.

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[00:38:40] James: It draws you in with that anxiety, because we know Apollo 13 went into space. Yeah. They came back. I mean Right. You know that before going to the movies.

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[00:39:02] Chris: So you're a million times still on, you know, on edge. And the first time I saw it, like new, like you were saying, knew something was going to happen and just waiting and waiting and waiting.

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[00:39:14] Sherry: it still blows my mind that they were able to do what they were able to do. Oh, for sure. Oh, no. I did

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[00:39:25] Chris: Well, it's not going to fucking work. And just imagine that, like being in that room, like you're one of these guys. [00:39:30] And

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[00:39:31] Chris: we get, how about a guy with a little less caffeine, they said

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[00:39:44] Phil: I agree. He said that I'm like, yeah. Okay. Even if I didn't know what Apollo 13 was about.

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[00:39:55] Sherry: even know it worked not to say well, he sure is slow today might

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[00:40:02] Sherry: Yeah

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[00:40:05] Chris: Anyway,

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[00:40:07] Chris: to me there's another foreshadowing to to Engine five like burning out or whatever

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[00:40:26] Phil: I didn't mean to rush the song. I think, I think it's a dramatic Breaking the Two with a [00:40:30] rocket going up into space, I mean. See,

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[00:40:37] Chris: Yeah. But they don't say I love you. They don't say I'll miss you. None of that They just do the little hand kiss thing that they do. I guess. Sure. I was like, yeah It's like I'd be like saying I love you and I miss you and I'm like, yeah, that's true. It's kind of weird Well, I think it had become

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[00:40:53] Phil: Yeah, they you're off to work. Yeah. Yeah, they don't think it's there's not because Tom Hanks says up in the photo shoot [00:41:00] There's nothing, nothing routine about sending, you know, but in their mind, we've solved the problems. We know the techniques and we're going to apply those techniques and do it.

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[00:41:09] Chris: You know, is this

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[00:41:26] James: Yeah, yeah, and you were in the same like vicinity.

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[00:41:30] James: to go to Florida. Yeah, well, it's

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[00:41:36] Sherry: Yeah. So I only went

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[00:41:42] James: man, but at that time there's only been.

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[00:41:50] Chris: Well, 11, 12, it was routine. Everybody else was still cool, except for the fucking news stations.

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[00:42:04] Phil: Eleven, eleven, twelve.

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[00:42:12] Phil: but there's only been like five landings, right? Eleven, twelve. Yeah. Fourteen, fifteen. Sixteen, seventeen. Six, six landings. I

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[00:42:20] James: If you believe that whole thing, yeah. You sure? Of course. So really, only Yes.

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[00:42:31] Sherry: They went

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[00:42:35] James: Yeah.

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[00:42:38] Phil: Crazy.

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[00:42:40] Phil: Yeah,

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[00:42:43] James: Yeah, the alien I just like to call it the other side of the moon, because it's not always dark. Right, sure. That's sun.

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[00:42:56] Phil: They're doing the broadcast that apparently does not get picked up by the networks because it's become [00:43:00] routine.

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[00:43:02] Phil: until something happened. Right. No, they may not put anything on my lawn. You can take it up with my husband when he gets home. I'll be home on Friday. On Friday.

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[00:43:17] Sherry: No, I was going to say, when you say Houston, we have a problem. Yes. Something interesting, when I was watching those interviews last night, they said that Kevin Bacon's character is the one who said [00:43:30] that.

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[00:43:34] Phil: No, no, I know, but I've listened to the actual, Like you can hear the audio files on the internet and, but the way he says it, whether it is swaggered or, or level, I don't know. I thought it was level, but it could be, I don't know.

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[00:43:52] Sherry: know, it's not like Houston. We have, I think he said something in there. Like, can you repeat that? It says, we have a problem. [00:44:00] And I, I think if I, and it was late last night when I was watching this interview, It made it sound like the other guys really said it but in the movie, of course, you've got to have Tom Hanks say sure I thought it was level, but I don't know why could be well, I didn't research it I'm a I'm probably wrong

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[00:44:25] Phil: Yeah That chick that came out of the shower was smoking hot too. I'm not gonna lie for sure. [00:44:30] Anyway,

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[00:44:31] James: that they were in the shower when he got the call, gotta take it. He's got to make the reservations or whatever. I noticed when the, when the tanks exploded, you see his fingers go to the tanks and he does them one at a time.

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[00:44:54] Chris: It was his fault the whole time. I'm not saying that's Yeah, but it was the fault of the electrical

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[00:44:58] James: But you can see the [00:45:00] difference. Like, oh, if Gary Sinise had been there, it wouldn't have happened. No. Kevin Bacon did it his way. It Jack you flip those switches at the same time. Yeah, of course it did. So what's this button? What's this

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[00:45:21] Chris: Right, right. I say that every

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[00:45:37] Phil: It's funny because Pax's character gets the clap.

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[00:45:51] Chris: Different chicks. So, and there's an interview that they, that.

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[00:46:05] James: wanted to take You should be talking about me, damn it. He wanted to take something into space with him and now I forget.

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[00:46:13] Phil: Yeah, he has a girl in every port, maybe, I don't know if he has one On the moon. On the moon, anyway. Uh. Uh. Uh. Houston, we have a problem. Let's work the problem. Okay, so, I guess that was Ed Harris. I didn't write down who it says, but Harris says, let's work the problem.

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[00:46:42] Phil: And then obviously how this is affecting the family. This is sort of my fun and games.

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[00:46:56] Chris: Yeah. Venting something in space. We're venting something here. Like, it's, like, it's three [00:47:00] o'clock, Houston, and we're venting. Like, Houston, we got a problem. Not, oh my god, we got a problem, but Houston, we got a problem. Yes. Only, like, later when they have to turn the shit, you know, down. We just lost the moon.

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[00:47:24] Chris: Yes. Yeah, that's crazy.

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[00:47:31] James: I mean, I guess for the last, you know, few years, it's been nothing but ACEs for them. Like the guys in the first module died from the fire. Yeah.

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[00:47:43] Phil: you know, we fixed it. We can do anything

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[00:47:46] Phil: Yeah. So, so there is this, all these funny games of. Problems and and drama and the effect on the family and we're working the problem and and clint howard just

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[00:47:59] Phil: That's one of [00:48:00] his best.

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[00:48:05] James: Ron Howard's brother. And then Ron Howard's father plays the priest sitting on the couch. Oh, I didn't know that. And I didn't know that shit mother. That's why he looked familiar. Mother, I believe is Tom Hank's mother. Oh, that's cool. That, oh, really?

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[00:48:23] Chris: the, the Howard. Howard brothers, Clint and Ron. Yeah, because like, and yes, he's a very good actor, but as far as looks like he's the crap that's left over, like [00:48:30] such a. Such an unattractive man. He's got a distinctive look.

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[00:48:38] Phil: Well, Give me a part, dickhead. Alright, cool. Have a One of those, you know, sort of, inspiring, tear jerking lines, you know, the, the grandmother, you know, My son, if they could get a washing machine to fly, he could land it, you know?

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[00:48:52] Chris: Buzz and Neil, Oh, are you boys in the space program too? Oblivious.

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[00:49:12] Phil: They have to shut down the computer. There is no clear solution yet. And the lamb is not designed to bring them home. So everything. they, they, they, they want to believe they can do anything, but there are no clear solutions yet. And they have to shut down everything. And the thing that they're relying on is not [00:49:30] designed for what they need it for now.

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[00:49:43] James: Yeah, they don't have

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[00:49:44] James: They

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[00:49:56] Chris: Yes, very first time we've seen him he's That's his opening image, okay. Corvette. Cause I'd had a [00:50:00] note just about the, when he's looking up at the moon, longing, right? Yeah. And he, with the whole thumb thing, right? Just, he's not, he's a devoted husband and father, but he's still not, I guess, fulfilled, right?

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[00:50:18] Phil: Yes. Oh, that's good. The thumb matches. That's,

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[00:50:22] Phil: Yeah, because now that's, that's just good. Because when he's looking at the moon, he says, I want to go back there.

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[00:50:45] Phil: That's that's that's pretty good So is where did you have

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[00:50:58] Phil: Yeah, everything after

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[00:51:02] Chris: Well, that

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[00:51:06] James: time. The whole time. We're running out of oxygen. Okay, now the things we're breathing is too dirty. Yeah,

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[00:51:16] James: Only if their luck changes. Right, right. If they had no luck, or if they had bad luck, they wouldn't have anything, luck at all, or whatever that is. Absolutely.

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[00:51:37] Chris: it would be hard to argue it's more in line with a two hour movie.

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[00:51:55] Chris: Like it never felt long to me. No, no, no, never, never, never.

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[00:52:06] Phil: Yeah. Yes. Sorry. So, so we're, we're sort of hitting close. I certainly can see the explosion being a false defeat. It really was. And then shortly after that he says, we just lost the moon, right?

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[00:52:35] Phil: Speaker as they go around the backside. Oh, that's cool. She had a special

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[00:52:45] Phil: sense to me You know,

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[00:52:47] Phil: Yeah. Um.

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[00:52:50] Phil: Yeah.

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[00:52:52] Phil: Seeing their landing site drift by and what could have been, you know, there's a, there's the Frau Maura.

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[00:52:58] Chris: liked that moment when [00:53:00] they're all like, both the other guys like, Ooh, not where they would have landed. The other stuff before that. Yeah. When they're like, Hey, you want to come take a look? And he's like, I've seen it.

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[00:53:09] Phil: Initially the mission control people can only give them 45 hours. Of like air and all this kind of stuff, which will only get them like two thirds of the way home.

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[00:53:26] Chris: So he goes to the chalkboard. And when he draws the map, [00:53:30] right? And he does the X and he, 45 hours. Just the little tap he does, like, That doesn't fucking work, guys. Like, you know what I mean? Just the way he, You know, Ed Harris was, Yeah, it was good. He, he nailed this role. Cause he's got that, Failure is not an option.

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[00:53:48] Phil: always liked him. Mm-Hmm. , uh, they have to get down to 12 amps from 60 and, and 12 amps not, not enough to run this coffee maker. And the 12,

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[00:53:57] Phil: You buy a a, you buy a circular [00:54:00] saw at Lowe's. It's 15 amps.

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[00:54:02] Phil: Okay. They gotta get below that. To run the spaceship.

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[00:54:06] Phil: laser. You couldn't run a circular saw with the amount of power they need to get down to.

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[00:54:13] Chris: We're talking about a space shuttle here. And

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[00:54:21] Phil: systems, the air, the oxygen,

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[00:54:34] James: Yes, for that power to get back on the

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[00:54:40] James: mean, those are that you don't get much bigger stakes than that.

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[00:54:54] James: right. As as dead men in a can. Yeah.

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[00:54:57] James: Right. Frozen [00:55:00] popsicles. Yes.

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[00:55:11] Chris: there's a lot of debris up there

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[00:55:15] Phil: of it falls to earth and that's why I was wondering, well, there is a, and I don't know if it's Apollo 11 or not.

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[00:55:42] Phil: Yeah,

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[00:55:48] James: eventually they like, so the earth is so massive that we have stuff floating around us. What NASA is trying to do is break through that lower orbital plane to get past it, to get to the moon. So there's not [00:56:00] stuff out there once you get past that junk.

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[00:56:12] Phil: of

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[00:56:12] Phil: it's moving at like 35,000 feet per second, so it, it, I don't, I don't know what it's doing now, but this was fairly recently, so.

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[00:56:20] Sherry: Yeah. But some of that stuff they've is, it's fallen.

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[00:56:24] Sherry: No, no.

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[00:56:30] James: They need to go up there with a big net and just sure the scoop it all up Sounds easy, right?

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[00:56:38] Phil: yeah,

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[00:56:42] Phil: Floating around out there. I

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[00:56:48] Sherry: hits one of the satellites Your internet might go out. No, I don't want to hear that.

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[00:56:52] James: it's all up there going the same speed. Yeah, yeah. So they're all just floating together. Yeah, but if

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[00:56:59] James: [00:57:00] Anyway. It's sucked in.

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[00:57:07] Phil: Fred has a fever and it's getting very cold in space because they had to shut everything down. They're freezing. Coming in too shallow according to the math. then they start fighting you, you know, you flip those switches you don't know what the reading wasn't, you know, not my fault carbon dioxide buildup square versus round cartridges Revisited so this is all the what and it's extensive section of one of the bigger bad guys closing that I've But it's just thing after thing after thing [00:57:30] coming at him and pounding them saying, you guys are screwed, you know, and this really happened.

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[00:57:35] Chris: this really happened. Yes. Yeah. I like Ed Harris's and his comment when they're talking about the filter and he's like, what about the lemon? Well, that's, that's round. Yeah. Tell me this isn't a government operation.

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[00:57:49] Phil: Oh, for sure, for sure. Oh my god. Alright, so that's my bad guys. My all is lost is a false victory, it would have to be. The remods work and the CO2 [00:58:00] levels start to drop is where my false victory

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[00:58:03] Phil: is lost is.

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[00:58:10] Chris: I knew I guess obviously if Houston we have problems the false defeat Then yeah, it had to be a positive. But well, I just thought the When they realign when he keeps earth in the window, right and they had to do the the last burn Yeah, obviously that was harrowing and all that bullshit. So I thought maybe once that was successful.

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[00:58:33] Phil: Well, I Is that was after the co2 thing, right? Yes, I think so. Yes, cuz I haven't gotten to it yet According to the strict beats it should be around 94 minutes and within a couple of minutes it is

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[00:58:47] Phil: Level start because that is really the only bright spot for a while both before and after You know, all right so my Leads us into the Dark Knight of the Soul, which is another extensive section.

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[00:59:26] Phil: But then we have the tape player dragging goes dead. This, you know, the, the [00:59:30] dragging sound sort of, uh, foreboding. Yeah. And running outta power too. Yep. That, and they're still coming into shallow, a blind course correction with a bunch of debris and no reference, a corridor, just two and a half meters wide thinnest paper.

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[00:59:49] Sherry: Right.

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[01:00:05] Phil: Yeah, because, and I don't blame you, because it's all dark. Like, basically since Houston, we have a problem. We've been, Pick it, bad guy scores in, darkness of the soul, all is lost, what do you want to call it? In case you haven't been keeping up with current events, we just got our asses kicked, pal. That's right.

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[01:00:41] Phil: They start playing old interviews of Lovell. He says, you never know, and he talks about, you know, him trying to land on the carrier, and I thought that was very powerful. Yeah,

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[01:00:57] Chris: And the daughter comes in too, I think. Yes. Um, Oh, another thing [01:01:00] too with, uh, maybe foreshadowing is the, the Beatles break up during the timeframe, right in the, in prophecy. Very traumatic big deal for people but the daughter was upset about that Yeah, but then like almost to me like you're gonna have something very more pertinent, you know, way more personal about to be upset about It's gonna put everything in perspective.

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[01:01:20] Sherry: and that that thing of his wife may not have known about the landing on the Aircraft carrier. Yeah,

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[01:01:33] Sherry: whenever When he got back, oh, yeah, there were stories that I heard from other wives about, Oh, did you know that something flew over the ship?

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[01:01:45] Phil: on the ship. We were, we were shadowed by freaking Iranian military boats, you know,

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[01:01:51] Phil: shit, but you know, they, they, anyway,

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[01:01:57] Chris: Is that where you pull back [01:02:00] your pants and moon

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[01:02:02] Phil: No, no. International reliever. I was standing on the deck, you know, with, up at the bridge, because it was a cool place to be if you didn't have anything to do or whatever, so, but I'm standing there and I'm in my frickin chaplain uniform, cross on one shoulder, and there's a frickin Muslim who hates America and probably Christians.

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[01:02:37] Phil: Something I

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[01:02:48] Chris: Took his phone off the hook. Thank you. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. And it's probably very lucky for them that he wasn't like also like. You know fucking drunk or whatever too, right? Yeah, because you know, he's having a bad time right now, right? It's supposed to be up there [01:03:00] Anyhow, they wake up in the night tell him what's going on when they when you see him next And obviously I guess this is the times in the entire but everybody's got ties and shit on he put his Got dressed, button up shirt, tie.

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[01:03:17] Phil: that's right. Cause you know, when they, when they, when he wanted to go back and do, do it again, that he had made all the standards, they were above the curve.

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[01:03:28] Chris: no, it's not [01:03:30] right. I really want to do it again. And I want everything they have. Like the dude even goes to him with flashlight. That's not the flashlight they have. I thought that was amazing. Yeah.

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[01:03:38] Phil: gathering the team, Ken and company working on power procedures, they get four extra amps.

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[01:03:59] Phil: Well, [01:04:00] there's not one, I don't think. Coming in too shallow, underweight.

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[01:04:04] Phil: were underweight. They didn't bring, they were, we thought you'd be carrying a couple hundred pounds of moon rocks. So now I have to redo

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[01:04:13] Chris: Yeah, kick me while I'm down, fucker. Yeah, right. We need to go to the moon, and oh man, now we gotta figure out the fucking way, cause we didn't get our fucking Didn't get our ride.

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[01:04:23] Phil: Yeah. Oh yeah, this, this always blows my mind, and they said it again, and I know it's true, but to me, it just [01:04:30] seems ridiculous.

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[01:04:38] Chris: Yep. Mm hmm.

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[01:04:44] Sherry: Right. Can I get a little bit more, please? God. That, to me That was the one that What's supposed to land on the land? Yes. You can just say we get away with that

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[01:04:52] Chris: But yeah,

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[01:04:57] James: it's heavy, it's

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[01:05:04] James: thousand dollars per ounce. I'm sure like it's.

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[01:05:09] Phil: to shut it down, you know, anyway, but thank the good Lord that they had it coming in shallow underweight.

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[01:05:30] Sherry: And let me, let me put this in there too. I was shocked when all this was going on.

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[01:05:43] Phil: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Both houses of Congress passed a resolution to,

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[01:05:51] Chris: The Pope did a thing too, yeah?

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[01:05:57] Sherry: Well, sure. It's a miracle

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[01:06:06] Sherry: If what would happen today? Well, I think they would probably say,

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[01:06:13] Chris: That's what I thought you were going with it. It initially was like the things that happened, like that wouldn't happen now. Maybe people's

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[01:06:31] Phil: minutes.

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[01:06:33] James: Yeah. So that would be a surprise. Yeah.

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[01:06:36] Chris: factual that I did not fact check it, but I just went right. Is that for dramatic purposes? It really did go longer.

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[01:06:45] Chris: doubt it. I mean, I

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[01:06:49] Phil: but not even knowing if the shield was,

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[01:06:53] James: Yeah.

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[01:07:04] Phil: was very dramatic when, when Denise's character, Houston, do you read me, Houston, over and over again and nothing.

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[01:07:29] Phil: [01:07:30] I wrote down the longest three minutes ever will the heat shield hold Three minutes has come and gone. Four minutes. Hello, Houston. This is Odyssey. It's good to see you again. And that moment still works for me, you know. There were several moments in here where it's like, you know. Yeah, you cheer

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[01:07:46] James: Yes.

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[01:08:08] Phil: Uh, no. Okay, final image. There is this narrative by Lovell. where he, he sort of looks forward at where all the various people who helped save them wound up in their life, you know. And then final thoughts, when will we be going back and who will that be? And I put down, this is essentially a flat arc, the best part of each one of us and the belief that anything is possible.

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[01:08:42] James: go see your air force recruiter

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[01:08:47] Phil: Kind of thing.

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[01:08:58] Sherry: Space shuttle. Yeah. I think it was. Yeah, hitching

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[01:09:04] Sherry: Quick, quick thing though, y'all did recognize that when Tom Hanks is shaking hands with people on the ship, that he shook hands with The actual Lovell. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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[01:09:16] Phil: Yes. He was in his The real Lovell. Is shook hands with Tom. It's in a captain's uniform or whatever.

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[01:09:22] Sherry: And cause I was like, wait a minute. Is that him? That looks like him.

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[01:09:27] Sherry: and that's how I got to down that rabbit hole of [01:09:30] the interview with If anyone's interested, it's on youtube There's an interview with conan o'brien and then there's the interview with all three guys with johnny carson That's only a month after they got back

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[01:09:42] Sherry: with johnny carson and they actually show You The footage that they took with the camera, when the module, when the, what do you call it?

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[01:10:18] Phil: Yeah. That's it's worth a look. All right. So that's the Apollo 13. Oh, and yeah. Yeah. Okay. Any other final thoughts for before we get into [01:10:30] pass consider? Good. All right. Let's do pass consider.

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[01:11:02] Sherry: I will. I, I just wanted to mention right quick though, that, that news article or that clip that I sent, I had heard Jack Black talk about it, but his mother, she earned a degree from USC and became an aerospace engineer and she worked with NASA, but she designed a computer that helped save the Apollo 13 astronauts.

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[01:11:25] James: very pregnant with him when that NASA stuff was going [01:11:30] on. That's crazy.

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[01:11:44] Sherry: Oh yeah. No, I recommend. Absolutely.

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[01:11:56] Phil: Well, we got another one coming up. Yeah,

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[01:12:05] James: I saw it in the theater, I'm sure.

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[01:12:14] James: I was, you know, the commercials, the whole thing, I was fired up for it. Then we saw it and I saw it several times. I

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[01:12:23] Phil: I don't know that I

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[01:12:26] Phil: think so.

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[01:12:49] Sherry: Yeah. At

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[01:13:00] Sherry: capsule is not Well, I don't know which one we saw, but I was walking because I was only Yeah. I don't remember. What year did this happen again? I forgot

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[01:13:12] Phil: I think it was 70.

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[01:13:16] Phil: Yeah. So well if you get on Houston, they have one of the caps You can see the the burn marks on it from entry and everything. It's pretty cool, but it's not Apollo 13. Apollo 13 I've heard is Locked up in storage or archives or something like it has not [01:13:30] which I don't know why but

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[01:13:32] Phil: Oh yeah.

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[01:13:35] Sherry: it is tiny. I just, I couldn't do it anyway. I couldn't do it.

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[01:13:42] Phil: Anyway, okay. Sorry.

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[01:13:50] Chris: It's, yeah. Classic Ron Howard. Yeah. Yes. It's not to love about this movie. Lathe . And there you go. All the other people that are 86% or whatever it was on, yeah, 87%. [01:14:00] Yeah. What's going on here?

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[01:14:04] Chris: you, Phil. Yeah, it's the fact that it's, you know, real life or based on real life.

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[01:14:08] Phil: Absolutely. Alright, so that is Apollo 13. Any other thoughts before we Nope. Sign off. Sign off? Alright, that is Apollo 13, and uh, we are out. He's, he's doing math. Yeah, by hand to get home. Well, you're the guy sitting around thinking, shut up, that's what I'm saying. Yes, a hero that wears a tie and [01:14:30] glasses.

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[01:14:31] James: Sexual innuendo

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[01:14:44] Chris: Yeah the alien I didn't say I never said I didn't I don't think we went to the fucking right

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[01:14:49] James: You're right Clint howard just Owning that performance.

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[01:15:00] James: just

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